The Temporal Lobe Gateway – Mystic, or grave mistake?
by DAN GREEN
The argument that temporal lobe epilepsy is the cause of hallucinations mistakenly viewed as paranormal, is not a new one having being announced and concluded a great many times over the last decade, closing the book on ghostly apparitions, UFO’s and their abductees, Near-Death and Out-of- body experiences dismissed as quirks in neurology producing mere fantasy. Those who have had any of the above experiences, in turn, prefer to look the other way on hard evidence produced by neurology and make an unnecessary enemy of science, leaving us with two factions equally dismissive of their opponent and awarding sole validity to their own point of view, and this is where all previous confrontations have ended. In this Blog I hope to show that there is room for both opinions to be correct.
Pix 1; A ghostly hallucination – the temporal lobe?
What we refer to as hallucinations are quite spontaneous, happening autonomously and suiting themselves as to when they appear, where, and for however long or short. Although some can be brought on through deliberate techniques as in the case of the various holy men living out their experiences in darkened caves and solitude, others are encountered in situations involving sleep deprivation lasting into days, mental exhaustion that is coupled with emotional or physical stress, or simply weariness and monotony such as can be experienced by polar or desert expedition personnel, sailors at sea for weeks on end subjected to the monotony of only blue sky and sea, and high altitude pilots who have no option other than to encounter inescapable hours of empty skies.
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Some meditational practices can bring about a vivid experience and shamanic practices such as drumming and dancing may slip you into a trance like state, and of course there is the more deliberate experimentation with drugs that we know will activate hallucinations. This we come to be expect, and barely raises an eyebrow, but it when we venture into the realms of otherworldly, ghostly and alien apparitions then controversy appears. Mention the religious visions attributed to great people in history from Paul on the road to Damascus, Moses, the prophet Mohammed and Jean of Arc, and almost in an instant we will hear the cry ‘temporal lobe epilepsy’. I first heard the term back in the cinema during the 1973 screening of William Blatty’s exceptionally scary movie ‘The Exorcist’ adapted from his paperback of the same name, Blatty himself personally interested in whether demoniac possession was a reality or could be explained by mental illness.
Pix 2; A typical religious vision – Temporal lobe epilepsy?
The suspected possessed young girl Regan was thought by the neurologists to have a lesion in her temporal lobe causing her to have seizures of which EEG scans showed no such problem. The temporal lobe is located roughly below the ears and at the back of the head and is one of four major lobes of the cerebral cortex. It retains visual memories and storage of new ones, comprehends language, processes sensory input, and deals with emotions.
Although we have been told much about the symptoms, there are few known causes of what causes epilepsy in this lobe other than brain injury, infection, stroke or a tumour on the brain, often the agency remains completely unknown. All this sounds, quite rightly, rather clinical and belonging exclusively the interest of medical practitioners and neurologists, but it equally now belongs to the hundreds of thousands of people across the globe who have had unexpected and unwished for close encounters with either or both visual and auditory hallucinations that have either changed or at least influenced their lives, only for our current understanding of science to casually dismiss and demystify the experiences as ‘unreal’ in any way, best perceived as either illusionary or delusionary brain glitch. And yet they happen.
Pix 3; The Temporal Lobe – A Gateway?
One of the champions against the case of TLE being responsible for the capabilities of hallucinations being delusional only, is neuropsychiatrist and neurophysiologist Dr Peter Fenwick , without doubt an outstanding and foremost researcher into near death experiences – over 300 – and epilepsy, and President of two organisations, the Horizon Research Foundation supporting study into end of life experiences, and the British branch of the International Association of Near-death studies. I contacted Peter in about 1992 in the days of ‘snail mail’ when I thought it would be to his advantage to have his attention drawn to the then living American Robert Monroe of Virginia whose classic 1971 book ‘Journeys out of the body,’ based on his many own, credits him with popularisation of the term ‘out-of-body experiences’. Monroe, as an explorer of human consciousness, went on to achieve a world-wide recognition before his death in 1995 at the age of 79.
Fenwick, himself now aged 79, argues against the TLE explanation being forcibly attached to those who have had religious visions and that this ‘owes more to the enthusiasm of the authors than to the true scientific understanding’. Regarding studies made by those who conclude TLE is the simple answer, Fenwick states that the conclusion has always been made by researchers neither dealing with epilepsy on a daily basis nor having a full understanding of the features of seizure in epilepsy, adding that owing to all epilepsy being confusional, no seizure can present with both the clarity and narrative near death experience style.
Pix 4; An out of body experience – courtesy of the Gateway?
The work of American ‘near-death’ researcher medical doctor Melvin Morse tells us that God is already present in our brain and that within this small organism we have a direct line to God, a device he places in the right temporal lobe allowing us to access the Akashic Records. USA author, editor and columnist in the fields of science and mathematics, Clifford Pickover of the Thomas J. Watson Research Centre, HQ for IBM research, kindly referred me to a lengthy quote from psychologist William James (1842-1910) arguing that religious states are not less profound simply because they can be induced by mental anomalies; ‘Even more perhaps than other kinds of genius, religious leaders have been subject to abnormal psychical visitations. Invariably they have been creatures of exalted emotional sensitivity liable to obsessions and fixed ideas; and frequently they have fallen into trances, heard voices, seen visions, and presented all sorts of peculiarities which are ordinarily classed as pathological.
Often, moreover, these pathological features have helped to give them their religious authority and influence. To plead the organic causation of a religious state of mind in refutation of its claim to possess superior spiritual value is quite illogical and arbitrary. Because if that were the case, none of our thoughts and feelings, not even our scientific doctrines, not even our dis-beliefs, could retain any value as revelations of the truth, for every one of them without exception flows from the state of the possessor’s body at the time. Saint Paul certainly once had an epileptoid, if not an epileptic seizure, but there is not a single one of our states of mind, high or low, healthy or morbid, that has not some sort of organic processes as its condition.’
Pix 5; Psychologist William James
What I find key to the temporal lobe assertion is the fact that not all who have its form of epilepsy experience the ecstatic, mystical or religious seizure, which only ever occurs in the minority. The hypothetical ‘get out’ clause for this is perhaps those who do, already have a predisposed belief towards religion or metaphysics, or even that the seizure stimulates those particular parts of the brain serving to mediate religious feeling. Canadian neurologist Michael Persinger, he of the ‘God Helmet’, has clearly demonstrated that if TLE is purposely triggered by pulsing magnetic fields, it will produce hallucinations in a sitting subject. Might this be because the temporal lobe, a potential and intended direct line to the Beyond has been tampered with unnaturally? Would it be more natural to utilise this ‘portal’ in the brain with the ebb and flow of the earth’s own magnetic field? Is this what the temporal lobe was designed to conceal, a passage to Paradise?
In July 2012 Enrico Facco and Christian Agrillo, both of the University of Padova in Italy, at the Department of Neurosciences and Department of General Psychology respectively, wrote their well-balanced paper ‘Near-death experiences between science and prejudice’ in which they emphasise the need for a ’proper assessment’ based on a) available scientific interpretations b) telling facts from hypotheses and c) epistemological aspects and related scientific prejudices, consequently stating that ‘most if not all interpretations remain only speculation, or, at best, clues of the possible brain mechanisms triggering them; some of the results seem questionable or even odd, taking into account other well-known clinical facts’, one such example being how in cardiac arrest there is no time for an experience of tunnel vision from retinal dysfunction. After rolling out the case perfectly, both authors are fair minded enough to announce ‘ NDE’s are an intriguing and relevant phenomenon, the nature of which is still under debate.’
Pix 6; Angel with halo – Early da Vinci. Epileptic aura?
Having looked at some researchers viewpoints concerning this neurology v. metaphysics argument, I will now dare to present my own, courtesy of my usual aide both the Collective Unconscious and the Mother Tongue. Each of us will possess in the region of 100 billion neurons we call nerve cells, each cell with its own thousands of dendrites, receptors for the chemical-electrical messages from other neurons’ axons across the synapses. Any picture of a dendrite will clearly show you a tree and therefore it is no surprise that the word means ‘tree-like’. This brings me on to a few observations of my own. Firstly I cannot have omitted noticing that pictures of angels usually portray them with halo’s or, more correctly, aureoles, the circle of light or brightness around the head of a holy person. My suspicion is that these aureoles – or subtle laminating, radiating aura – are in fact suggesting the warning sign ‘aura’ of an epileptic seizure.
Pix 7; A Dendrite looks like a tree – in the Garden of Eden?
Next, I have spotted that if we use the arrived at acronym of temporal lobe epilepsy, TLE, it is a phonetic for ‘tele’, a word that as a prefix means ‘transmission over a distance,’ ‘across’ and ‘distant’, the very descriptive terms that suggest an experience through a temporal lobe epileptic seizure. Clearly, you are being taken to a ‘somewhere’ else. Even in the very word ‘temporal’ we can find the anagram ‘portal’’, and the Latin word ‘temporal’ itself means ‘Temple’, a building dedicated to religious ceremonies or worship. Is it just a coincidence that the one day in the year when a supposed gateway opens, both physical and supernatural worlds are closest and magical things could happen, is called ‘All Hallow’s Eve’, a phonetic ‘Hallow’s’ as in the ‘halluc’ (halloose’) of ‘hallucination’?
Let us now return to the dendrite. In the biblical account of the Garden of Eden, both Adam and Eve are expulsed out of this paradise with the stern warning after their curiousity in investigating the Tree of Knowledge, or the knowledge of good and evil. In order to have them banished a cherubim guard wielding a sword is installed. Genesis 3;24 informs us, ‘After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.’ We can view this scenario in a modern day neurological sense where we see the tree of life as a dendrite capable of communicating information – knowledge. It makes me wonder if the synapse, the structure that enables neurons to signal other cells, refers to ‘original sin’ (syn), the word ends in ‘apse’, the architecture usually found at the end of an aisle or choir in a church.
Pix 8; The Brain Synapse – Original Sin?
Renaissance Italian painter, sculptor and architect Michelangelo, (who by synchronicity has ‘angel’, a cherub, in his name) held to be one of the greatest living artist of all time, painted his ‘The fall and expulsion from Garden of Eden’ in 1509. We see the cherubim strike out at Adam, but where has this master painter – or his Collective Unconscious – aimed the blow? It meets Adam’s head at below the ear level at the back of the head – the temporal lobe! Does this canvass, hanging in Cappella Sistina in the Vatican, tell us that that the seat of all knowledge, from which Adam was banned from accessing, is the area of the temporal lobe? Is this why religious visions emanate from it, that it is, in fact, a truly paradisiacal location?
Pix 9; Michelangelo’s Cherubim strikes Adam at his Temporal lobe
The cerebrum, which makes up most of the brain, is divided by a longitudinal fissure into the two hemispheres that each contain five discreet lobes including the temporal. The word ‘cerebrum’ embodies the phonetic ‘cherub’ (‘cereb’), the plural of which, the cherubim, patrol the temporal lobe Garden of Eden. Across many continents the widespread practice, of trepanning, where a hole is drilled or scraped into the human skull to treat health problems, can be traced back as far back as the Neolithic period when attempts to excite and open up the potentiality of an area of the brain were explored, the majority of these probable surgical operations were carried out at the right temporal lobe.
Pix 10; Neolithic Trepan at the Temporal lobe
With the help of the Mother Tongue, looking at the word ‘epilepsy’ from Old French epilepsie, from Late Latin epilepsia, from the Greek epilambanein, we find the key section is the word ‘pile’ hidden within ‘epilepsy’. Brain cells working together communicate by means of electrical signals and on occasion an abnormal charge from a group of cells result in a seizure, the type depending upon the part of the brain where the abnormal charge arose. In 1929 the German psychiatrist Hans Berger first demonstrated that the electrical impulse of the brain could be recorded, it continuously generating electrical current. Now we leap to Voltaic pile, a source of direct current consisting of a number of alternating discs of two different metals separated by acid-moistened pads, forming primary cells (generating electricity) connected in the series. ‘Pile’ = Pyl, and onto ‘Pylon’, a word from the Greek ‘Pulon’, a Gateway, from ‘pule’, a gate.
A Gateway in the world of computing is a link that enables information to be exchanged between one computer network and another, in our epileptic seizure scenario a transmission, a communication during the moment of loss of consciousness. Within the word ‘epilambanein’ we find ‘lamb’, ‘The Lamb of God’ often referred to in describing Jesus, but we are going to look at the lambda, the meeting of the sagittal and lambdoid sutures of the skull, the brain’s outer layer the cerebral cortex. The Greek letter Lambda is used as a symbol for wavelength in physics and mathematics and in certain photosensitive epilepsies exposure to particular light wavelengths can be a trigger. Wave forms, a disturbance or oscillation propagated from point to point in a medium or space, described in general by mathematical specification of its amplitude, velocity, frequency and phase, project millions of miles into space bouncing off planets and stars, returning to earth. Are, in a sense, individuals snatched away undergoing temporal lobe seizure also traversing this distant trip?
Pix 11; The Shifting Consciousness
Suture parts of the skull, by their appearance, strongly resemble riven terrain, cracked open fissures affected by earthquake – the simulated brain ‘tremors’ felt during epileptic seizure. The word ‘Epilepsy’ contains ‘lep, phonetic ‘leap’, an abrupt or precipitous passage (the shift of consciousness) or transition. Let us look at Tonic-Clonic seizures, a type of generalised disturbance that affects the entire brain. We find ‘tonic’ in the word ‘diatonic’, the tones and intervals – interval is a term used between successive seizures – of the natural scale in music as all music is constructed of vibration, frequency and wavelength, all terms used in epilepsy as the body vibrates, there are frequency in seizures and all vibrations take wave forms. It is interesting to note that the role of music is now being thought to be a therapy for epilepsy – three-quarters of suffers saw a 50% fall in seizures after hearing Mozart’s piano duet K448. The ‘Clonic’ in Tonic-Clonic, we find in ‘Cyclonic’ from Cyclone; stormy often destructive weather, a kind of centrifuge – centrifugal in physiology equals transmitting impulses away from the central nervous system. Seizures can be cyclic, or reoccurring.
Pix 12 Lightning strikes – Planetary Mind Dendrite?
The original religion of Tibet was the belief known as Bon of which there are still isolated monasteries existing there. A major god in the Bon pantheon was Za, with his stormy and destructive weather replete with lightning bolts (notice how they resemble a dendrite) and hailstones, who was responsible for causing epilepsy. Although Bon monks today teach a very similar understanding to Buddhist teaching, there is one significant difference in ritual – Whilst Buddhists will walk clockwise around a sanctuary, stupa or Mani wall, the Bon adherent will walk anti-clockwise. Tellingly, in meteorology the cyclone – a tropical atmospheric disturbance (our Tonic-Clonic seizure ) – is characterised by air masses circulating rapidly, clockwise in the Southern and anti-clockwise in the Northern. Little wonder that changes in air pressure, barometric changes in temperature, dark skies, thunder or bright sunlight and humidity are known to act as triggers in epileptic seizure.
To offer my conclusion, for all the admirable hard evidence tried and tested by neurology which is indisputable, I feel the danger is that neurologists are throwing the baby out with the bath water. By arrangement of a strategic series of patterns, colours and images, or by manipulating the style in which an object is lit, within one tenth of a second we can produce a standard parlour trick optical illusion to fool the brain into seeing something that isn’t there. Even though we go into the exercise knowing that this is what we are going to do, the brain allows itself to be deceived. If this is also the case with it allowing an area of itself – the temporal lobe – to display ‘hallucinations’ on tap as in Persinger’s experimentation, then the mistake we will make is our own optical illusion, the view being that this Gateway is only fit (pun intended) for malfunctioning an electromagnetic spirituality with no real substance.
Pix 13; Albert Einstein – until we stand up, step back and view from 15’ (or squint) to see Marilyn Monroe
Copyright 2014 by by DAN GREEN
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Callum Jensen (Dan Green – author of ‘The Lincoln Da Vinci Code‘ , ‘The Lincoln Da Vinci Code and the Mystery of Rennes-le-Chateau’ and “The Murder of Mary Magdalene“)
Science is not a personage. One cannot “make an enemy of science.”. One can make “enemies” of some scientists and in fact, no matter what one concludes, there will be some scientists who disagree. So obviously the point is not scientists per se. The point is whatever ideas/opinions hold sway at any point. To challenge those means ruffling a lot of feathers. lol.
@Starheater
Have you heard of Phil Schneider who worked as a geologist for the US Gov. black projects? Have you heard his story of an alien encounter when a boring machine broke into a deep cavern? He lost four fingers on his left hand from a blue electrical beam that emanated from the chest of one of the seven-foot slit-eyed smelly greys. A soldier sent in after him lost his life! Those particular greys are thought to have been living in this Earth for at least 1.5 billion years. Is that in the Bible also?
Here’s an even better one on the subject of ETs and our so called leaders. Seems as if all the books have been contrived to control the minds of the people!
Hello Brenda
This I write for your message of the 24 June, the fonction “reply” was not there.
I would like you to consider that I’m only exposing my understanding of the Bible on your experience with Jesus or God. This understanding that I have come from the fact that since I read the Bible I have found many “Truths”.
The First that I have found is the “fact” that the Bible is wrap in a veil that begin in Genese to end in Revelation.
So, I would like to think/meditate real close, because this is the base that would lead you to the Truth. The reality that God doesn’t want us to know is an imperative factor of the truth that we found in the Bible. We cannot read the Bible without saying: “I don’t understand what the Bible say”. This is only the beginning of the “chaos” for the “readers”.
That’s why today, many experts have study for multiple decade to master the true understanding of the Scriptures. Why?????
The strait answer for this reason is that God doesn’t want us to comprehend is Word at is fullness, and here I don’t speak only for the Prophesy, but for the Doctrine too.
The main reason is to show us that we are all dead wrong, whoever the reader is, God doesn’t want him to fully understand His Word. In reaction of this fact, errors are compile one over the other to make us wonder where it’s gonna end.
This is where we come to the conclusion that the metaphoric verses that talk about the Angel with the Flaming Sword that protect the road to Paradise is justify by what I have mention above. To be simple; the Truth is the Tree of Life.
But why a “Flaming Sword”, the Logic say the the Sword will cut whatever he have to, but the “Flame” will burn to ashes whatever the Sword touch. This bring us to the word that the Christ have spoken that we will all be “baptise in the Spirit and Fire”.
To have access to the Tree of Life we have to pass by the Door (Christ), and HE will lead you to the Truth. How? By giving you the “real” meaning of the Word He had spoken.
That’s why, there are a real need to comprehend certains all HIS Teaching. That’s why it’s very important to understand those verses that He have mention. There is one subject in particuliar that is found to be a “Master Key” that contain the “entire” Plan of God since the beginning of Humanity, and that Statement I can prove for your “benefit”.
Lately I have said the the Greys was not the Illusion mention in the Bible, this Illusion come from the Bible, no where else, and I am dead serious about it, and I can prove it right in front of your eyes, this is simple, it’s only a question of LOGIC. After that, YOU will know that I’m walking with God too, not perfectly, but I’m not trespassing the road. Now let’s see if I am wrong on this point:
1. The entire Bible is writin’ with “allusion”, “allegories”, and “metaphoric” meanings.
2. Many (not all) Propheties are “scealded” causin to have many interpretations
3. The “special language” is in many ways difficult to understand.
There are many other points, but it would take time to track them in the Bible:
Matthew 10:34 “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.
This is the Master Key of ALL the Bible, this One you must fully understand, because the Book is sceal, from the beginning to the end. Beside the many illusions that we are facing in the Universe, this one is the most biggest of all.
Now let’s found some proofs beside the facts that no Christians religions can claim that they are in the Truth, because they are none.
Romans 11:32 For God has committed them all to disobedience, that He might have mercy on all.
This was true in those days before, but today this more that true, we all have a truth (religion, this is the real meaning) for ourself, but I will not follow this road, it lead to NoWhereLand. I know that my Commandant, my King, my Savior walk with me in the Garden, and I will not deceive HIM. I didn’t have all this knowledge for me to trow it in the garbage cane.
Even if I were an Elect, and my fruits were developed to a 100%, that wouldn’t make me a 100% without errors or sins/transgressions.
HE doesn’t talk to me, gladly, I will be dead by now, but HE have send me demons, angels, and sometime human angel like the Greys so I could search the real meaning of their presence. There are other physical angels that look like us.
But those are not the angels of Billy Meier, because Meier is a liar, and even I don’t found the good You Tube video, I have found the “trick” that he use for his video. So you don’t have to take my word on this Richmann, but I saw it with my own eyes, and Meier have lied, sorry, but this is the truth.
Now Brenda, you ask me to believe you, but I’m in title to ask you the same, so I’m asking you to believe me what I have told you about the Voices. If you do so, you are praticing the Justice, but if you do not, your justice is one way. If you don’t believe me, I wont talk to you ever, does I sound right in your understanding. If you don’t have the Science of God to explain it, then you don’t ear or see Jesus, it’s impossible in our body to see Jesus, you wouldn’t live to speak on this site.
Bye Everyone
Starheater, from my understanding, there was never a beginning and there will never be an end because God is ever-present. The cosmos is forever evolving. Acording to the Plajaren, Universes, wake and sleep in the same way as all life forms. The only difference is a day/night for a Universe is a very long time. The Creation, containing 10^49 Universes, also wakes and sleeps over an even longer period. When Creation sleeps, all the Universes are also sleeping. When the Universe wakes, it is greater than it was during “it’s” previous day. In that way the Creation is forever evolving. There was never a beginning.
Perfection is an arbitrary value judgement. What one considers perfect, another finds faults with. God is above perfection. God is above all Creation containing manifold Universes. God is above all else. There is no comparision with God. God is above all comprehenson.
Both description and not description are always evolving and in a state of flux implying illusion. Only that which has description has a chance for becoming known. The material shell of a Universe is the fourth layer of the seven layers of a Universe. The other layers do not have description. However, description emerges from no description.
The light that human eyes see is material light that is the result of some material process. Spiritual light does not come about as a result of a material process. Instead it is light itself, light on light on light in layers forever, that is ever-present – the radiance of God – so to speak.
I cannot speculate about the spiritual level of Jmmanuel. If you read the contact report where Meier was taken back in time to meet Jmmanuel, Jmmanuel himself made statements to Meier that he, Jmmanuel, was also in the process of evolution. No doubt, his spirit-form was more evolved spiritually than the average man today.
There are no experts on ETs not even Meier nor his Plajaren contacts. In fact, the Plajaren state they are human. However, the ETs do make statements about being more technologically and spiritually developed than Earth humans. The reason given is their society has acheived peace for approximately 50,000 Earth years. They strive to acheive a ballance between their physical and spiritual existence. They do not procreate beyond the carrying capacity of their planet Erra. Erra is similar to Earth in size and make-up. They say the Earth can support at most 529,000,000 people to allow for maximum physical and spiritual development of a human being in harmony with nature without any stress to the planet. They do not consider themselves to be perfect. They strive to develop spiritually, as do all space-farring ETs, to evolve to a state where they no longer need a physical host. That is why they make the effort to balance their physical lives with their spiritual lives in harmony with nature and other life forms. They do not believe in any “God’s” because they know it will only cause them to ceed self-responsibility to some higher power leading to catastrophy. According to their experience, there is only the Creational with immutable laws. One has to live within cosmic law or face the consequences of catastrophies.
The Plajaren do not have any religion. Their philosophy of life living within cosmic law is sensible. Their way is conducive to harmonious material as well as spiritual progress within cosmic law. The Plajaren state outright that it is the over-population on Earth that is the source of all our problems. The closer it can be brought under control to the 529,000,000 number, the closer will be our material and spiritual progress. Relationships, peace, love, spiritual knowledge and technological progress will automatically follow as a result. This is why they sent the six prophets to the Earth. They were hoping to speed our evolution! Unfortunately, that has not worked yet. Each prophet has a lengthy time long after he passes away. Even though Meier is now present on this Earth, he has not been declared Prophet. That will happen in about 800 years time when he returns accompanied with Jmmanuel. The Muslims refer to that final Prophet yet to come as the Mahdi. Meier will continue to reincarnate here on Earth to gradually bring awareness to man as time closes to that final time when Jmmanuel returns.
Starheater, Apollo 7 astronaut Walter Cunningham says “Global Warming” is “the biggest fraud in the field of science” and the 97% consensus claim is nonsensical.
“Since about 2000, I looked farther and farther into it,” Col. Cunningham (USMC, Ret.) tells MRCTV in an exclusive interview. “I found that not one of the claims that the alarmists were making out there had any bearings, whatsoever. And, so, it was kind of a no-brainer to come to the conclusion.”
Cunningham rejects the notion of man-made climate, not only as fact – but also as even qualifying as an actual “theory”:
“In the media, it was being called a theory. Obviously, they didn’t know what it means to be a theory.”
“If we go back to the warmist hypothesis – not a theory, but, a hypothesis – they’ve been saying from the very beginning that carbon dioxide levels are abnormally high, that higher levels of carbon dioxide are bad for humans, and they thought warmer temperatures are bad for our world, and they thought we were able to override natural forces to control the earth’s temperature. So, as I’ve looked into those, that’s the problem that I’ve found, because I didn’t find any of those to be correct – and, they certainly were not a theory, it was just their guess at what they wanted to see in the data they were looking at.”
Cunningham urges Americans to look at the data and decide for themselves, instead of taking anyone else’s word for it:
“You go out and take a look at it and you find out that a lot of it is pure nonsense and wishful thinking on the part of the alarmists who are looking for more and more money to fall into their hands.”
“Don’t believe it just because your professor said it. You gotta go take a look at it. Go back and look at the history of temperature and carbon dioxide, and you look at the value of carbon dioxide, and how it’s a benefit today.”
“And, the amazing thing to people like me… is that there are people that believe the nonsense they’re being fed.”
“When they’re out propagating this so-called 97% of scientists believe we’re controlling the temperature – I mean, that’s the most nonsensical, stupid number in the world – and all they have to do is do a little research on Google – I’m not going to do it for them – go in there and take a look and you find out that’s a ridiculous statement that people are making – and even the president makes a statement like that.”
“If you have a totally anonymous survey of real scientists involved in this field, I would almost guarantee you that you going to have a majority that are not going to agree with the alarmists.”
The message here is self-responsibility in acquiring and digesting information, using ones intellect, instead of ceeding that self-responsibility to others who only want to enslave people with false dogma.
If all the holy books on this Earth were actually genuine, do you think they would need people hounding other people to buy into those books and do you think there would be so many viewpoints? No! People would feel the truth in their being without any external help if those books were truly genuine. The Muslims claim the Quran to be unaltered. However, they keep quite about Hazarat Ali, who first compiled the Quran, retracting his compilation when the political ruler of the time refused to accept Ali’s compilation instead offering his own compilation. Can you not see the pattern?
Hello Richmann
Now I know that you don’t believe in that “stuff”, you have push the cork in the bottle, now you are trap my friend, and I know where you are going. But first thnings first.
What I have told you about God is part of the Science that God give to their childrens. But hthis as not satisfied you, you talk, welle, I will talk Science, real Science, not the dummy plajaren of Meier.
First of all your Seven layer is just a copy of the Seven day’s of the week. Now my Boss (the Christ) have copright on this, it may sound funny, and it is, this is just because the rest will not be so funny, because is accuracy.
The material Universe have only 2 layers, why? Because the Third and others layers are inexistant, Why? Because those layers come from LIFE itself, so you better say to Meier to go to school, he still a liar, he not very intelligent those ideas are really old, and they come in part from India. But if you want to accord credit to those weak science, be my guess, but i will tell you a part that you didn’t think of, why? Because your thinking is linear on the horizontal line, this implied the Time at is full implication.
The Sphinx tell something about time: “The Earth fear Time, but Time Fear the Pyramids”, why the Sphinx say that? Because the 2 first Pyramids speak about God the Son and God the Father.
Now to speak according to God the Almighty (The God More-Then-Perfect) this One is NOT on the Horizontal Line, He is on the VERTICAL LINE. Now TIME doesn’t exist on this LINE, nothing, Nada, do I make it clear or will I have to put you on the bench of those who don’t want to listen in class?
In case that you don’t understand I will give you some hints. Suppose that you want to go trillions of year lights ahead on a planet that don’t even have a name because it’s to far away. You think, you are there. But this is not very far, it’s just next door, say trillions times trillion years light ahead. You think, you are there.
Now to give a dimension of this dimension because your spirit need a refference, for this purpus I will call it the 0 dimension. This is not the fastest, there are no speed implied, this is only ONE effect of 0 Dimension. How it work? The Zero Dimension WORK BY GOD, and GOD IS 2 (ELOHIM) that make ONE (ELOAH), The Trinity does not exist, this is an ILLUSION, like many illusions in this UNIVERSE.
And there is NO Universe that to sleep, the Universe is compose of to layers. The matter and the etheric substance,this substance is the radiating field that surround all matter. This field is in fact in the paranormal language, “the Akashic Record “, (I don’t remember the real name) and it can serve as a magnetic tape to keep memories of all that it is said and do. This record is very accurate, it surpasse all that we know about in recording field.
In the Bible it is said that GOD doesn’t CHANGE, He’s alway the same, this 0 Dimension is PARTLY the reason, now do I have to knock the nail further more, or do I have to make you a wider picture, this is not mockery, it is just if I have to go futher in case your intelligence does not do the rest, this would be normal, because you dont have habitude to think this way.
Bye Richmann, on your article that talk about the Global Warming, I approve 100%, you got it right in the bulleyes.
Correction:
There are no Universe that fall to sleep, to sleep you need to have a conscienceness, this is only give to the creature that have blood, your Plajaren are not very scientific I must say. They are 25 years late, and they didn’t go to school enough. I can elaborate if you wish.
See, your level of sensitivity is limited to the material existence. You have no conception of what it is like to exist outside of a physical host (OBE), namely, your body. No book nor personality can “give” you that experience. That is something that only you can experience when your intellect and sensitivity evolves. It will happen in time. Until then you can lean on a crutch and make use of a pacifier.
Hello Richmann
Talking about “level of sensitivity”, I don’t know why your telling me that. To be in the track to find what’s really is, I suppose that I have enough sensitivity. Now, and this is other side of the coin, the sensitivity that you talk is nowhere needed it, except for those who are connect to an illusion. I’m not suprise of your responding like you have, this is for me a proof that I have shake your understanding on a certain level, speaking of level.
There is no such thing that I must experience whatever you say, with the intelligence and certains principals that are solid like a rock, I can figure it out without doing it.
But it’s my fault if you speak to me like you do, I didn’t talk to you scientificly. You see, the normal and the paranormal (the real thing) is base on the same principals, there is not doubts in my mind, the only exception between those 2, is that we can prove the first one, but cannot prove the second one.
You have a theory that come from stranger, and you didn’t bother to test is knowledge, you have taken is ideas for granted, why you are not capable to do so with me?
Because you don’t know de Science of God, not the science that we have learn when we were kid, this one is another version of the illusion, because all the religions are “crutch” like, including yours. You don’t have enough knowledge to prove you knowledge, but this is not my case, you didn’t bother to ask me to give you more details, this is where you are now, will you risk your theory.
You have put me on ice, but now I will melt this ice by asking you again, do you need more proofs?
Bye Richmann
Starheater, let me help you with your claim that Meier is a liar. Get this PDF called “the-failed-prophet-meier”.
Found it at the future of mankind billy meier wiki site.
Of course, you will still have to read it to make sense of it and use your own judgement.
Checkout the seven-fingered ET hand print on car hood.
Hello Everyone
I think that alone to talk, so I will continue to your benefits.
Even if we have technics to be able to be conscious, those technics will not help you significanly, the reason is because we are out of track, now I don’t want some of you to get picky, I don’t know you enough to make a Judgement on those of you who try those technics, I take for granted that your doying so honestly and without bad intentions against those who are not like us.
Now, I will let you sit on the seat of consciousness, by all sort of simples reflections.
There are peoples that doesn’t have a tremendous Q.I. What will happen to those peoples that are not capable to go closer and closer to God with the knowledge of God?
Do you think that God will let this injustice take the place of his Justice.
In the Bible the Christ have let us the liberty to choose the “left or the right”, why? This is simply not logic from his part. The answer lay in the fact that nobody in face of God is without blemish, none, nada, not event the Elect, for those have been said to produce 100% fruit does not mean that they are 100% clean, but By God they are considered to be clean because they have a good “Root”.
Even if I were an Elect (I don’t think so, I consider myself to be the science guy of God), I would be considered by God as a sinners. This is the plain truth, I’m in the same basket that you are in, this is 100% true, without no doubt.
We are restreint in a close circuit, this make us apart of God, and this cause the fact that we make errors.
The reasons why we are apart is that we came from this Universe, and this Universe is not complete. He will be completed when the Christ will come, we will be change instantly with the entire Universe.
This process will not contunue to other dimension, they all be change in this instant that God the Father will choose by his own will. Those who will be change will be in Heaven, and those who are not will be Judge instantly, they will have a second chance to live a good life.
Bye for now
Hello Richmann
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew42GmOMjtw
Here is the link were we see the “branch move in the second shot” when filming, there is no douth in my mind that you will conclude the same as I. Now during the process of founding the shot (go to 45 minutes, it will begin appr. at 46 min.) I have found another false UFO, appro. in hte 40 min. frames, could be + or -.
In the scene you will see the UFO go bach and forth of a pine tree. Now look with attention, you will see the the UFO take a little bit of speed when passing over the tree, there is not doubt in my mind that you will see the same thing that I have seen.
With this 2 proof you will know that I have said you the truth, ans by this fact you will conclude that Billy Meier is a liar.
Bye Richmann
oh, almost forgot Richmann
If you analyse the film of Meier, you will find that they insist to promote another religion. Jmmanual, Jesus, Moses, all that stuff are false informations. This is done by the Government, no doubt in my mind, to make this phoney trick, they took an helicopter, the UFO was attach with wire, we can see clearly the UFO go down and up, describing a curvy traject.
Bye
Starheater, yes, viewed the video at the 45:27 mark to see the UFO suddenly appear to the left of where it had been. The leaves on the branch were moving before and after the shot. The video is accompanied by a high speed counter showing 06:26:38:29 when the shift completed. The shift appears to have ocurred at 06:26:38_23. Doubt if a video expert could prove or disprove the authenticity of this footage. It is quite blurry.
Have never seen a UFO up close and certainly have not had contact experience. So all the UFO cases are at most information. However, have observed strange behavior in clear night skies for the last four years. One only has to look up for about half hour to see what appear to be faint star-like objects moving very rapidly along the polar (N/S) trajectory. Often it is possible to see another following closely within ten degrees of the first sighting so that two objects are visible at the same time. At first thought, these were merely commercial/military satellites. However, in each of the years of observation, these points of light are seen to come to a full stop, during the week of the Persid meteor shower peak, and a minute later there is one ore more green streaks cutting right in front of the trajectory of these lights. Afterwards, the lights will either resume their speed and trajectory or reverse course. That is not consistent behavior for a satellite. The green streaks are the meteors travelling through the Earth’s atmosphere and would approximate their speed to be roughly ten to fifteen times the average speed of the points of light. In the past, have tracked the space shuttle and the space station during fly over and found them to be crawling compared to these points of light. But by far the most compelling evidence is the content in Talmud Jmmanuel and the Meier Contact reports regarding prophecies and predictions many of which are now part of recent history. The pictures and video of the UFOs are less important.
You most certainly have a right to your viewpoint.
From you viewpoit the Meier case with Talmud Jmmanuel is the creation of another religion. But no one is being forced to follow any advice provided. However, arguments have been made in all the material to alter our behavior and thinking to balance the physical with the spiritual and not to exploit the Earth in a way that would result in a catastrophe. That last sentence, by the way, has been echoed in other UFO contact cases as well.
Government involvment in the UFO cases is possible where there is intent to instill fear and remove peoples liberties as has been ongoing for at least the last fourteen years. However in the cases mentioned previously, the ETs are critical of the world’s governments.
As far as the spiritual information given to us in concerned, there is one common thread. God/Cosmic Consciousness/… whatever you want to call it is not finite and not limited. Instead one has to use the phrase “neither description nor not description at once” as being the same as “above all else”.
The proof is simple: Take a infinite plane representing two dimensions. Draw a circle representing all “description”. Then what is outside the circle is all that is “not description”. Because there is a boundary detween description and “not description”, both spaces are still finite. Now consider “neither description nor not description at once” and you have containment of the former spaces without any boundaries and you have an entity that is “above all else”!
This now helps one understand evolution of the human spirit in a physical body to the point where after forty to sixty million years of re-incarnations, the human spirit can now exist without a body. In time the spirit-form evolves further to merge with the cosmic consciousness in the same way as a drop of water merges into the sea.
The Romans were more than happy to layer Jmmanuel with heavy chains and nails and there was no need for Jmmanuel to also carry around the additional – so to speak – weight of followers. It was all about salvation by raising the intellect of man to improve his physical condition and at the same time allow spiritual progress and spiritual evolution. Instead, the so-called ellite have succeeded at imprisioning people with religious dogma and manifold bonds for physical survival.
No matter, it is only a matter of time. People will themselves wake up and see the futility of the current arrangement and make the required changes! Everyone knows what it is to be a slave! They naturally seek freedom from the manifold bonds.
Hello Richmann
I will take your words as the truth, I have made a big mistake, I didn’t check it closely, I though that he could have make the same snap shot, because sometime I think that this could be done on purpus.
The video that I saw was showing how those ship could dissapear in front of our eyes, the ship didn’t move, but is hovering was a sign for me that this was a fake.
Listen Richmann, I’m counting on your logic in our analyse. I know how those engin work, and I an assure you that the wind don’t affect them, the little motion on the snap shot that I’ve talk you about is revealing, their ship are in 0 gravity, the force surronding them repulse automaticly all the surrounding matter. I will seach again the snap shot that I,ve talk to you, but this time, I will not bottle it up rapidly.
You didn’t talk about the UFO that was making pass over a tree, is strange variations in his speed have could convince you.
Now for the question regarding God, follow that logic, if God exist, his eternal, if God doesn’t exist, we could not be there to verify this question, so, if He exist, He’s perfect, if he’s perfect, he would render automaticly the matter perfect, because He’s perfect.
God is not in the matter, not in a rock, not in the water, not in the fire, if this was so, our Universe would be perfect. Another thing for you to consider if you are really interrested in the Truth. The spirit is a source of energy, whatever the energy this represent, the thing to consider is the fact that we have a spirit in our body, and if it was so the we have reincarnation, we would have the memory of it because our spirit act like a pen that inscribe all the detail of our memories, but the fact that we have none of those memories is the proof that this theory is false.
I will return later
Bye for now
Starheater, look at 45:50 to 46:39 in the video you linked for “The Billy Meier Story Documentary” to see the disappearing and re-appearing of the UFO.
For the UFO hovering above the tree, see 43:03 to 44:57 in the same video.
Again from 44:57 to 46:43 for the disappearing and re-appearing of the UFO.
Note that the video was shot in 1975. Not sure if digital video was even available at that time. There was no photoshop back then either. If keep viewing to the 50:00 minute mark will see light ships of a different ET race.
In all cases, these are just pictures/videos. We don’t have the real experience – and even if we did, there are lots of people who are able to convince us that we are only seeing things. So all of these pictures are for imagination only. There may be scientists who might have insight into such vehicles. As per the contact reports, we will have that technology within the next 500 years.
You stated:
Now for the question regarding God, follow that logic, if God exist, his eternal, if God doesn’t exist, we could not be there to verify this question, so, if He exist, He’s perfect, if he’s perfect, he would render automaticly the matter perfect, because He’s perfect.
Not sure how the statement “if God exist, his eternal” could work because you are already making a lot of assumptions. For me, the definition of the word God is “above all else” as in containing all. So even time has no measure for God. Perfection is a finite concept just like time and cannot possibly be applied to God “who is above all else”. See 59:45 to 1:06:00 of Meier’s talk on God.
The reason we do not have memory of previous lives is because it would be unbearable for most to endure. Also, being in a state rife for taking revenge is not productive for spiritual evolution. As a man’s spirit and intellect evolves, the veil on time is cast aside. If you do a search, you will find cases where the very young provide compelling evidence of having knowledge of previous lifetimes.
Hello Richmann
I’m trying to do my best to explain complex concepts, or principals, English is not my birth language, I’m French, and no, this is not a disease 🙂
Ok, let’s do it again, it will require only your logic, and LOGIC GOD IS, but not like us, we are not in the same room, if I can explain it this way. Let’s see now:
God is Perfect, this is a REAL fact for me, if HE wasn’t perfect, there would be no Universe, breafly, nothing would have exist, do you get the point? Because all that is imperfect tend to degenerate/degrade.
But the LOGIC say: that if something exist, then God exist, because in the first place. who would be enough Powerfull to create the infinity (I mean, without end, and this is the truth, I will prove it to you right now in a second, I will finish my statement first.
Now we are in a Universe that is not Perfect in what we SEE with our eyes, but in REALITY, this Univers is Perfect. But this Univers you will never be able to connect God to it. He’ not made for this purpus, because this Univers contain to much “Illusions”, the PERFECT contain no Illusions.
Now the Proofs.
Take a molecule, cut this one in half, take the half (quarter) cut in half, an so on and on, you will never find the end, it doesn’t exist. Noe if you think that this is impossible, will do it again, this time with Math’s
What is after 1 is without end, are you with me on this one? Now, what is before 1 is a fraction that have the same pattern but in reverse, so .9, are you with me again to approve what I say is really what it is.
If you say no, you have a real problem with the reallity, pride is indigestable, spit it away, you will feel better.
Oh boy, now I will ask you to collaborate in the logic, because it would need a book for you to comprenhend what I’m about to tell you. God have created ILLUSION in our Univers so we could all are resource to test our intelligence, those who will succed will have the real thing, and for now I wont tell you what is the “real thing”, but I will tell you later. Now, if if I forget, ask me if this is the right time to tell you to tell you, I don’t have a good memory, so keep in mind that I am human like you, and that we sometime forget.
First Illusion, the Earth is plain flat. It is not and the Bible is the first to mention it.
Second Illusion, the Sun evolve around the Earth. The Bible doesn’t mention this false information.
Third Illusion, the “light” that our human eyes see, is not the fastest light, the frequecies are infinite (without end). There are light that we will find only when our scientific knowledge will be more “strechy”, more wide, ect…I know it why? Because I follow God, do you understand what I mean by “I follow God”. HE have made a “plan”, and in this plan HE have trace all that exist, I’m just folowing the path, the route, the road, am I clear for now?
In exchange this lead me to a conclusion, “I’m walking with God”, this doesn’t mean that I am perfect, this only telle me that God have somehow inspired me the knowledge to walk with HIM. I repeat, that doesn’t make me perfect, because no one on Earth is Perfect.
Like the Christ have said in the Bible when someone have said to HIM. “Good Master” the Christ have said to him: “There is only one that is GOOD, God in Heaven” (this is said by memory). But on the conterpart. The Christ was perfect, because HE is the only One that came from Heaven.
That doesn’t mean that we could do the same thing, we don’t come from Heaven, we come frome this Earth, and we cannot be like the Christ was, like the Christ have said: “The student is not higher then his Master”, this mean that you will never be like HIM (Christ), but you will have the “seed” to become like HIM, but only when HE come back On this Earth again.
I will search the good sequence that I have spoken to you about Meier and is phoney UFO, mean while, I will only ask you to look twice and think, this is not for my sake, because in reallity I don’t need your approval. It’s just a question of trying not to give more power to that liar, and I know his lying. But the fact that I could prove it mto you that he his like I said he was, I will have a certain level of credit of your part. And on the other hand, you could act like I do with others that you know, this way it will benifit us all.
Even if I don’t understand all that you are saying, I know that you are willing to be just on my part, and I’m gratefull that you do so even if you don’t share my view on Meier. Mean while, I will ask you questions that may give the answer only because those questions are revealing something that is not suppose to exist if they were done by Official E.T.
Now, here is my first question: By what laws of sociaties, or “ruler” they mesure the advance technologie of a civilisation of E.T’s? Some experts say that they are millions of years avance on us, what science in the world make them say such statement?
This is not even according to what they say about the “cycles of the Planets” and “cycles of civilisations”.
Second question: Are you really shure about their philosophie of life, I might say “their religion”?
Third question: What will you gain for believing in them?
Fourth question: Even if your conscience become wide, what will be the change in your life? Will you be a better person in front of other person? Will it produce peace and fraternel love.
Will it give you the science to understand the deepness of the heart of human?
Try to not overpass those questions. I really don’t need your answer Richmann. I know you Richmann, even if you were not talking to me, and by the same science I know me too. Even we are different, we are the same in our heart.
We are facing many illusions, we see the lightning, and a couple of second later we ear the thunder. You ear a great noise, kind of “boom” and you conclude that it was close, but it could be far away!!!
They say that the Sun is hot, but the space is very cold, this is not Logical.
THey said the the Earth was a big melting rock, but if this was so, we couldn’t have “marble”, why? Because marble in the melting state when cool, it tranform in Rhyolite. I know it, because I have work with marble and Rhyolite.
They say that the Moon have no trace of life, perhaps this is true, but the Moon have an atmosphere, it is the one that make the Moon shine. Did you ever sees a roch shine, or a planet that have no atmosphere?
I could continue like this a while, but what credit would I have from you? I am Mr. Nobody! The have all kind of papers telling that that have study real hard. Well Richmann, this is another illusion.
I will try to found the proof you need from me, will it be enough?
Bye Richmann, talk you later
Hi Richmann,
I think you and Benny ought to get together – if you’re not together already. Let me say this to you as well: I knew when I found Jesus, I had found the truth, and it has proven to be so time and time again, each time I’ve followed what He has said, or led me into. When you have found truth, there’s no need to search – what would you be searching for? Truth? You’ve already found it. And when I want more truth, I have the Source of it that reveals it to me as I need and desire it. Anything or anyone who denies Jesus is exactly what He said He was, I’m not interested in following, or searching out, it would be in vain, and I have more to do than twiddle with my intellect.
“..The natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned.” (I Corin. 2:14) There’s no greater ‘intellect’ than the Creator’s, I’m not interested in anyone else’s – especially those who claim to have found error or fault in Him. You will find out who you’ve been following in due time. If you’re happy with it – go to it. I’m not. And you better ‘enjoy’ the deceit now, because it won’t be long before you’re going to know that’s exactly what it is and was.
Now I will go no further with anyone of your group until they get honest and start answering what I’m saying, rather than skirting the issues and going on and on about sites and books I’ve said clearly, I’m not interested in. If you do not want to follow Jesus, don’t, I won’t bother you. Give me the same courtesy. I discuss things of God with people who have HONEST questions, not leading questions, manipulations, innuendoes, pushiness, etc., no matter how much ‘intellect’ they think they have. Until you can be honest and open in your approach and attitude, I will not be addressing you again. Bye now.
Brenda, you are correct that Benny shares my views. That is refreshing.
He understands the value of an intellect given us to make sense of the reality that each of us find ourselves within.
He understands the likelihood that mainstream scripture has been manipulated to enslave those who choose to discard the faculties of their given intellect.
He understands what are the consequences of becoming subservient to those who view all others as their slaves.
You talk about truth as being contained only in one book and uttered by only one man. You have no appreciation for the word limit! And you feign testing that truth in fear. Jmmanuel was critical of people like you.
The Creator contains all including all intelligence. That has never been in question. The Creator created using that attribute of intellect. Is that not an example to copy in what limited way given to each of us? After all, why create an intelligent being if that being will refuse to use that intellect? You have not comprehended the example of Jmmanuel giving sight to the blind. For you, the sight given was merely physical. For me it was both physical and spiritual. You talk of deceit without considering where you are now.
I’m glad that you have decided to stop corresponding with me. I know that much more! Jmmanuel did not seek followers. He came to free man from the bonds of ignorance by appealing them to use their intellect to make a difference in their lives. Honesty is a prerequsite for intelligence!
Hi Richmann,
Regardless of how it sounds to our carnal hearts and minds, scripture is clear, we are formed in iniquity in our mother’s womb. This is the truth. As I told another on this page, real faith is neither blind or ignorant, but is born only from the Word of God, and because it comes from His Word, it is life, and will accomplish what God wants it to. I follow God, and His Spirit, there is no ignorance or blindness in He who is the Light.
Hello Brenda
If I understand you well Brenda, I agree with you, here are why:
2 Peter 1:5-7
5 So, for this very cause, take every care; joining virtue to faith, and knowledge to virtue,
6 And self-control to knowledge, and a quiet mind to self-control, and fear of God to a quiet mind,
7 And love of the brothers to fear of God, and to love of the brothers, love itself.
The knowledge of God is the Key to understand what He want for us, and what HE want is not what we think that He want for us.
All begin with the desire to know HIM, and the “how” to know HIM is in the Bible. I remember that I have said on this site that the Great Deception was not because of the Grey, in fact, the Great Deception is cause by the Bible and not by the Grey, and I will tell you why, this may be in many articles, so be patient. I will try to reduce the text the more that I can.
To prove what I’m saying, I will need to mention a verse that the Christ have spoken, He said:
“Matthew 10:34-36 34 Do not have the thought that I have come to send peace on the earth; I came not to send peace but a sword.
35 For I have come to put a man against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law:
36 And a man will be hated by those of his house.
This mean ONLY ONE THING, the TRUTH IS HIDDEN, MASK, SEAL, and this from the beginning. Why?
Like Brenda have said, but I will say it with other words, because they are no light in human, and this is the MAIN reason why we suffer. Ignorance is the key word for this fact, or if you prefer in another manner of saying, the absence of the knowledge of God, the True knowledge of God lead to the REAL faith in HIS LOVE.
This Love is to know that we are Save by this Love, not for what we have done in our live. We’ve got to understand that we were created imperfect, because our mind is not set on the authentic reality, truth and perfect comprehension of this Love.
In essence this Love is base on the TRUE JUSTICE. In the first place, there is a “STRONG ILLUSION”, this strong illusion come from the fact that we are not in God reality. This correspond to the 7th angle of the Pyramids of Giza, to be clear for those who don’t know, the TOP of KHEOPS.
This mean that this Pyramid of Kheops represent the Human Kind and the Earth that we are living on.
The Perfection will come ONLY when the CHRIST will come. Now, this imply that whatever the degree of perfection is, we cannot achieve it. You are an Elect, you are not perfect. To show you the difference, it is said that the Elect will produce 100% of Fruits, but the Text doesn’t say that THEY ARE PERFECT, and to God this is like we were PERFECT, this correspond to the seal of perfection to love each other.
That’s why there are contradiction in our labors versus our faith. Now the “condition” to be save is the believe that Christ have come in the flesh, that HE came from Heaven. By this “believe in” we have the first sprout coming out of the ground, and by this, this plant will grow and grow until one day you’ll die, simple as that. Now if you have labor, and you will have labor (30, 60 and 100%), this labor will only be a + on the Day of Judgement
I have mention that the Bible is responsible for this GREAT ILLUSION, why?
Because the Bible reveal to us our imperfections, our sins (trangressions), but this is not the last that the Bible reveal to us. It reveal that it’s impossible to be PERFECT, and this is the main reason why peoples does not persist to study the Bible. We are so shock about what we have discover that our humain spirit is in a “hot bath of Fire”, this is what Jesus have spoke when He spake about the “Baptism of the Holy Spirit and Fire”.
Now I would like to show you a little part of the REAL TRUTH. When Moses recieve the Ten Commandments, with those Commandments he recieve also ordonnance, but those last are for those who live in Heaven, they cannot be observe at 100% effeciency, why? Because of the nature of man. By this mean I don’t speak of trangressions (sins), I speak of absence of SEX, or to name it, EUNUCH. This is what we are suppose to be in Heaven, but NOT on Earth, we are made to make children. The Christ was eunuch cause of is divine Nature, but we or not, but HE have gave us the power to be so. This is ONLY POSSIBLE by a GIFT from God the Almighty, all the other humans are chain bye the power of reproduction.
This have lead many to make the worse errors of all time. God HIMSELF have made us this way, but they didn’t attach to much importance to this fact.
In the reality, sex can slave us in is negative state, but not in the possitive one.
That’s why it is very hard to comprehend the meaning of this phrase: All is Pure to the Pure.
I will continue next time
Bye to all of you
Starheater, your opening response is absolutely correct! There is only one problem. God is above all else. He can only be known once you merge with Him just as a drop of water falls into the sea and disappears forever. This means, that once you or anyone for that matter who come to know Him will not be able to report to anyone what it is that they know because it will be outside of comprehension! That is the meaning of “He is above all else!”
Hello Richmann
You are not in the LOGIC of God when you present those kind of exemple. This that you said is far away from the Truth. Let me explain why. God have made us at is IMAGE, if that doesn’t speak to you, well it speak very loud for me. We have the intelligence to understand what HE is, the thing that we cannot understand is how HE control all that exist. But this is not essential to know, I call that “static knowledge”.
Now here a question for you to answer, I will provide the answer, but I will ask you to give me another answer, let’s pretend that I have a corpright on this affirmation.
Now let’s return to the Image, there are 2 side on this medal, one is physical, the second is spiritual. The physical part we can explain, but the spiritual part is out of sight for the moment, I speak about my knowledge of that comprehension. But what I have explain is part of the Logic, God is LOGIC, due to the fact that we are made at is IMAGE, we can understand logic, and at the same time we can know HIM, this is where the ressemblance stop, I will explain you why.
We are made in 2 part, male and female, we know by the logic that God is male (but not in the reality, HE doesn’t have sex like the Angel). In our human comprehension, we human have the tendancy to say the male is a + and the female is a -, that is false LOGIC, this is not even part of the human reason. In the Bible it is said the God took a rib of Adam and with it He made a woman. Now, look the logic of your English language.
Man
Wo-man
Hebrew now:
Ish = Man
Isha = Woman
French:
Homme = Man
Fe-mme = Woman (Femme)
For the Hebrew the Est is the beginning, but they place the “a” at last, this is not logic, but at the same time it is logic, I will explain later.
For the Gentil the Ouest is at the end, but they place the “Wo” at the beginning. Now the logic of that.
The left side of our brain control the right side of our body, and the right side control the left side of the body.
So the Est control the Ouest, and the Ouest control the Est. But this is not the end.
The Man is the Est (the beginning), the Woman is the Ouest.
Now the Man is a ++, the Woman is a +. GOD id the same, the Father is a ++, the Word (Christ) is a +. Why a ++ and not a – (minus), Because the Son of God is the Image.
Did you ever tough that God know’s Himself? I don’t think so. But God have made all thing at His Image. The only thing that is unreasonnable, is our thinking, because there is no minus (-). But for our comprehension we have made differenciation. But for God, He is the SAME, He do not change, but by the immense differenciation HE create “swirl”, like a fast wind was blowing in the same direction then a very slow wind.
Human is the only creature that can understand what God is. But on the other side of the medal, He cannot predict the future, or what God have made in advance.
Time is on a horizontal line, God on the Vertical. God will transform all the demons, including Satan. But we don’t see this in the Bible. But Jesus have said that He will announce what the ears didn’t heard, and the eyes that haven’t see, He have said too that those who will believe in HIM will do thing more great that He have done. We have the tendancy to think miracle.
The Man is the beginning, and the Woman (Church) is the End, because Christ is the Beginning and the End, there will be no Church anymore, no RELIGIONS TOO, only the TRUTH, because the TRUTH is the REAL RELIGION.
Can you tell me what a spirit are made of? This Universe will dissapear because this one were not made to last forever. But the REAL ONE have alway existed.
Next time I will explain where is GOD. (The Holy of Holy’s)
Bye Richmann
Starheater, have you taken courses in logic and completed fourth year undergraduate courses in Mathematics for Complex Variables or Real Variables where all your assignments and exams are proofs?
First, when reference is made to God, it is understood that no limit can be ascribed to such an entity. Referring to God as “He” is faulty as God is above gender. God is above logic. We are said to be created in God’s image. The reverse is not a true statement. An image of the Sun in a pool of water is an weak and incomplete reflection of the Sun.
I’m sorry, but we have absolutely no conception of what God is. That is the definition of the word God! At best we can assume that there is an entity greater than our conception. We don’t even know for certain how our Sun works. Mainstream astronomers claim fusion at its core even though they have no evidence to that claim. The Electric Universe Theorists (EUT) claim our sun is powered externally with a constant flow of electrons and that fusion is occuring at the Sun’s corona. Kristian Birkeland conducted his terrella experiments in an attempt to understand the aurora borealis and the Earth/Sun magnetic interraction. Even the EUT people do not claim to understand how the Sun works. Yet they are able to explain the Sun much better than conventional astronomy. If we have no understanding of our own Sun, then what can be said of all the stars in the night sky? And the Big Bang is a fraud! George Lemaitre who introduced the expanding Universe theory was both a mathematician and a high ranking member of the Catholic Church. George Gamow another Big Bang proponent sent the first copy of his book “The Creation of the Universe” to the then Pope! This was after Doppler and his apprentice Halton Arp, the modern day Gallileo, tred in vain to correct the misconception of the red-shift as being an indicator for distance. Read the papers of Stephen Crothers who completely destroys all proposition for Black Holes and the Big Bang. Take a look at “The Big Bang from a Plasma Perspective” for an introduction to how little we know. Most of what we are taught at school is outright lies!
We do not even have a clear conception of our Sun and you want to now “contain” God inside of description??? I wanted to say “Give me a break!”, but even that much is not deserving!
Starheater, anyone who can completely describe what the spirit of man is, is God!
What proof have you got of our being “formed in iniquity in our mother’s womb”?
Just finished the other guy’s link on Talmud Jmmanuel. Actually enjoyed reading it as it was sensible. It would appear that what most consider as the “Word” needs careful re-examination.
To understand that last statement you need to read two books and review a few websites that describe your strawman errected by certain groups who consider themselves ellites over all the masses to be exploited in every way conceivable even religion.
The two authors are Mary Ellizabeth Croft who wrote “Spiritual Economics” and Wayne Barbuto who wrote “It’s Not the Law“. The second book is devastating as it will make you re-evaluate everything you have ever been told using your own intellect.
The websites that you want to carefully examine are:
DetaxCanada.org
natural-person.ca
jforjustice.net
yourstrawman.com
After reading Wayne Barbuto’s book, your understanding of the word faith will need re-evaluation. Faith is not something easily acquired. It requires through grounding with contiuous and rigorous testing throughout one’s lifetime. A faith not reflected in daily life as a result of one’s actions is blind! Following a faith in fear is blindness! Each of the prophets Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jmmanuel, and Mohammed had tested their faith as throughly in this world as their faith had tested them. Hence, they had achieved mastery in faith. The were not blind followers. For each of them, God was above all else! This implies that they had a very great knowledge of Science that they themselves had experience with so that they had a through understanding of the laws of nature. There was nothing mystical or blind about their faith as it was outright sensible! But in each case, after they passed away, their words were corrupted in such a way that most people are not even aware of it. If their words had not been corrupted, then there would have been no reason for another prophet to come after them. According to the Meier contact reports, it will take Earth humans another eight hundred years of struggle to acquire this faith. At that time Earth humans will have technology for interstellar travel but there will be a final battle that will threaten the planet Earth itself with obliteration as an asteroid field. Such an outcome will put neighboring star systems peopled with advanced ETs in danger as our system has some very large outer planets that could be flung outwards as a consequence. At that time, they will intervene and Jmmanuel will return as prophecised but with a formidable aramada.
Hello Richmann,
Since you didn’t address who you were speaking to, I’m answering you on a couple of points because they were mentioned in what I said to you.
The part about being formed in iniquity is from Psalm 53:5. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. He is our Creator, and since it was by His Word that He created everything, by it we are sustained.
When you know the truth, there’s no need to seek elsewhere for it, and that is why I’m not reading other books or websites that distinctly deny and detract from the One who is truth. You want to believe as you do Richmann, it’s your choice. I am not walking that way.
What is the point of hearing when you are not even prepared to use your on intellect to test what is being said?
The Truth is self-standing even when the ignorant speak. God is above all containing all. God is Truth and thus the Truth is everywhere reflected! The blind walk about with their eyes wide open but see little. The seeing see all even with their eyes closed!
Correction on Brenda’s Reply to Richmann – That should be Psalm 51:5, not 53:5.
Hello Richmann
It’s a pity to see your technic of reading between the line, making me say what I didn’t said. You will have to do better then that to make me say “ouch”. Now that you have kick the ball, it’s my turn, as I could see, the ball didn’t fall far away from you.
You see, “it’s very easy to say something, but very hard to prove it”. Now if you don’t approve this adage, this is due to the fact that your base on LOGIC is weak.
So I will ask you to prove what you have said. If you speak superficialy, I will notice, go deep please, you speak like a master, act like a master. You have made errors on my part, this you don’t talk very loud on this. I know those technic, I will force you to teach me real hard, but you better go deep in the subject.
What I say come with logic proofs, like I have said lately, this is just the “basic”, but if you want, I can go deeper than that, this is just a question of asking me. When I speak with somebody that I don’t know the “tendancies”, I go simple to be sure that this person will with is naturel logic, understand what I have said.
In your case, you seem to be to much “stranger” of what we call “logic”.
But Brenda know me more than you do, so this is acting in favor in the sense that you don’t know the majority of the “simple knowledge” that you don’t comprehend. But if you want something realy complicated, I can serve you a good meal. You just have to ask.
Now, to speak about your “Zen Stuff”, I will explain to you why the Bible is telling the truth versus all the others Books. First this goes intimitly with the fact the there is ONLY ONE TRUTH, in case you didn’t understand. What is REAL, is what is TRUE, and the fact that you have said that the others Book are also true, this tell me that your spirit are block by what I could call a veil.
But how could we compare the truth to an illusion of the truth. Well this is not very hard to compare. If I say to you on a shinny day: “the Sun is shinning beautifully today without a cloud” . In this fact, you see the same thing that I see, but if you want to impress me to subjugate my spirit, you will speak to me like this:
“Starheater, what you see at this moment is the vibration that by is rapid mouvement create a density that lead to the sense of feeling something hard to the touch”. This is a true statement, but to the spirit of our, it’s just like if you could hear static in the radio. This have no effect on your level of your intelligence, you could be 100 time more scientific that this knowledge wil have no effect on your level of intelligence, it with only be good to impress people in a party, but this knowledge could be percieve like if you were a genious, but this fact will not help you to be a better person.
Because the real goal of life is to be in peace with everyone, and this knowledge will not help you in this purpus.
But science is good for the spirit on man, but not all science. The true science can explain why the Universe had appear, to say when if you think really about it is not a real deal of importance, why? Well, ask you this question: ” What is the importance to know when in billions of years the Universe appear?” But to know HOW, this really make a diffenrence in your mind, and lead you to a better stable intelligence.
Listen I know the reaction of a man that is caught with is pans to his knees, and this is your case. Now to put you on the test. In what I have said on those thing that are important to know about, you will have to prove me that I’m wrong, this is better to try to ridiculise me.
So on the other part, prove me that you are right, because the truth is like the Sun that over our head, that lead us to see no shadow, in this is not the case in our statement, I’m not blind, and I can look at you face to face. So, if you want to be an “Illusion” of an Academic proportion, well be my guess, you will see that I can handdle that with ease.
Now give me proofs without “shadows”.
Bye Richmann
Hello Richmann
I’m sure that you have not read what I wrote, or you didn’t care about what I have said.
You tell me that we cannot have a definition of God, sorry to bug you Rich, but you have point out “your own definition of God”. I said you didn’t read carefully what I have said (I will copy/paste): “We are made in 2 part, male and female, we know by the logic that God is male (but not in the reality, HE doesn’t have sex like the Angel)”.
The HE that I spoke in (Change) is God. But to make sure, I will repeat it: GOD AS NO SEX (male or female).
Thank you for your advice to read Mr.X and Mr.Y and Z, I have better then that, I have the Spirit of God to teach me.
Now, thanks for the reminder about the word “WORD” speaking about the Christ. Cause the real word for it is “LOGOS”, this word is our base for the word “LOGIC”. In the Science, not the science of man, but the one that come from God. The “WORD” refer to something that “vibrate”.
Now to correct your complicated point of view, I have decide to simplify, it will be so, and your “dog” (God in reverse) will be able to understand, isn’t that cute!!!!!
Darkness does not EXIST, it stand his (darkness) existence by the fact the our eyes are not capable of seeing all the Frequencies that VIBRATE in the ENTIRE UNIVERSE.
Now, let’s name the things that stand in front of our eyes. An apple is an apple, a banana is banana, and Meier is a LIAR.
Even if this was not the case, it is said in the Bible that “even if an Angel” provide another Gospel. Consider this Angel to be Anathema.
So, even if the story of Meier could be true (this is definitly not the truth), the Angel that teach Meier is Anathema, consider this to be settle.
Now concerning your different Prophets, I’m certain now that you don’t read the Bible, because all the Prophets say the same things, but in differents manner, case close.
If you have others opinions, let me know it.
Bye Richmann
Starheater, the Truth brings all sides together and seldom divides. Take that as a consolation.
Hello Richmann
This time I will not lost my temper, even if you try to, or whaterver the reason, it maybe something else. So, I have decide to expose the only the true meaning of life, without excess of words.
I have read your article of the of our reasons to be on this Earth. You tend to go for a theory that can be really full of “illusions”, re-incarnation is in those kind of things that we must study real carefully, the reason is before our eyes. Like I’ve said lately, our Universe is full of Illusions, you must take care where we put our feets. To be sure of one principal is a thing, to bet our live is another. Let’s be realistic, there is nobody on this Earth how can do this. So when I sunddenly found a man the cry is shirt that he have the right thing, well, in the first place I verify his theory, if this one have flaws in it, I expose them.
So I must ask you a question that need an honest answer. What do you search in reality, the truth or theory that give you more hope to justify your special character?
I ask myself this question long ago, and I have found that my ego was playing with my honesty.
I would like you to be conscious of one fact, or tendency. We are opposing one againt each other. This must not be, the reason is simple, we are searching the truth, and found something is not the proof the we have found the truth. So realising that, there is an exchange of knowledge, and that knowledge could be the beginning of the truth.
Now, there is a barrier between our opinions, and this barrier is opposing one to each other, our goal is the same, so we must try to overpass our difference, me the first. If we could acquire this consciousness, we could combine our intelligence to discard those illusions that hypnotise us.
So I invite you to lay down the first stone, and if it fit, we will know it. But if it don’t fit, you’ll notice too.
Bye Richmann
Callum Jensen (pseudo Dan Green): You’re being very disingenuous to your readers and you know you are. The Temporal Lobe is but one of four classifications of the cerebral lobes. Unless you can explain the others lobes’ functions in relationship to the Temporal Lobe’s visionary or hallucinatory experience your theory (hypothesis, hallucination, fantasy) has more holes in it than Swiss cheese. You act like one of those multiple blind theorists each touching a different part of the elephant’s body trying to describe it to the rest of the blind world.
Science of the brain is not a nitpicking genre where you can dissect a widget into infinite knowledge on the human level; yet, you take one part of the brain and say viola – all problems concerning hallucinations and visions solves. In order to have a hallucination or vision the Frontal lobes have to be accessed otherwise whatever happens in the Temporal lobe can neither be immediately experienced nor understood. Should you also be allowed to negate the Parietal and Occipital lobes? Are they as superfluous as the Frontal lobes? They are all superfluous at least in your theory. Does your theory infer that each cerebral lobe act independently of the other parts of the cerebral brain? You cannot deny that anybody reading your paper is forced to come to that conclusion.
Are you forgetting that the whole outer experience is a projection of the psyche and that all life’s experiences are lived within the psyche? You cannot divorce the outer from the inner because they are one and the same. Yes, I agree that what we call the outer experience is the psyche personal local phenomenon (the ego’s experiences) similar to our solar system being local compared to the galaxy (personal unconscious) or the city is local to the entire state as the state is local to the country. It is only when the local (ego-consciousness) has intercourse with the greater whole (personal unconscious) that the Collective Unconscious (the infinite universe) can be tapped and it is only then that a vision or a hallucination can be experienced. In fact it is my belief that the whole brain has to be in play in order for that to take place.
Simply describing the symptoms as epilepsy does not explain away an epileptic’s hallucination. The psyche has to be attaching the patient (ego-consciousness) for a reason. The hallucination like dreams has to make sense on some conscious level whether the patient pays attention to it or not. You don’t even mention trying to understand these hallucinations other they flaunting the word ‘epilepsy’. These archetypal experiences do not come from local experiences they come from archetypes of the Collective Unconscious.
In my studies of Mary Baker Eddy (Christian Science), CG Jung (Analytical Psychology) and Bill Wilson (Alcoholics Anonymous) none of these individual had epilepsy; yet, each of these individual had an inner experience and spent the rest of their lives creating a worldwide organization. When each of them had that inner experience they were enamored by their immediate outer experience, which they worked on for the rest of their lives. There is no doubt in my mind some idiot in the far future will classify them as epileptics in hindsight.
I understand that the God particle (MONAD, which the collective unconscious is but a commentary) is deep with the psyche (at least the MONAD is the source of the psyche: ego-consciousness and personal unconscious) and each human being experiences the unconscious mind projection into the outer darkness differently (the known universe). There are those that have traumatic experiences in life, which are desperate to find a reason for life and the intellectual search for that reason can cause a small portion of the population to have aberrant psychic experiences (insane asylums are full of these patients), which psychology calls epilepsy or give other appropriate nomenclatures to; however, the whole of the race cannot be so classified under those rubrics.
Hello William. Thank you for your concern, energetic and detailed commentary. My only concern is that the neurologists are throwing the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak. My understanding is that there is only Mind and with the best of intentions we are all on a hiding to nothing to try and understand anything less than that. Respect to your opinion.
Hi Starheater,
What I have said to you has nothing to do with me being ‘more intelligent than you’. You know I have not treated you that way at all. It’s about you deciding not to believe a single thing I say about my own experiences. You’re not causing me ‘pain’ Starheater, nor am I angry, nor do I suffer from wounded pride. And if you requested that I discuss my experiences with you further, so that you could better understand them, that would not be a problem either. But telling me that I didn’t see Jesus, didn’t hear from Him, didn’t see or hear from angels, etc., when they are my experiences that I most certainly did have, that is the problem.
I’m mentioning them on a blog, there’s no ‘proof’ I’m going to send across the airwaves. I have tried to share with you, and to explain how scripture backs up the things I’ve seen and heard, but you just keep on arguing, making it very clear that there’s just no point in continuing. I will not argue – there’s no way of ‘proving’ anything to someone who will not believe, and I’m not going to banter back and forth. If you want to share, then listen to my experiences and respect what I’m sharing – just like you want someone to listen to, and respect what you share.
If you’ve felt like a ‘child’ from reading something I’ve written, then talk to me about it so that we can reach an understanding, because anyone who reads my posts can tell I’m not trying to hurt, deride, or belittle people. But do not presume to tell me what I have heard or seen, or make yourself the teacher and explainer of my relationship with God, and expect that I will say nothing. If you want to talk, then respect that I have intelligence enough to know who I’m hearing from and seeing with my own eyes. That would help. “;” “)”
What did the Angels and Jesus tell you?
Hello Richmann,
Though I was addressing someone else in my post, I just noticed your response, so let me explain a little here.
I’ve mentioned things over a number of my posts that include what God has spoken to me, or referred to the few times I saw angels, and heard what they said to me, so this wasn’t just a one-time deal. In order to answer your question I would have to share specific incidences, and I’m not sure what you’re looking to hear. This is an incident that was very real and accomplished something in my spirit.
Each time an angel was sent to me, I was having a personal problem. On one occasion I was very concerned and upset with how much Jesus had done for us, and yet how ignorant and rebellious I still was. It bothered me a great deal that He had given everything He had to give, and here I was with so little changed in me to show for it. I could feel the Spirit of God wanting to comfort me, but I refused it; and then I heard God speak. “God down and comfort her,” He said – obviously to one of His angels, “..for she weeps and she WILL NOT be comforted.”
Immediately I saw an angel descend through the ceiling into my room (I was sitting on my bed at this point). He walked around the bed to where I was, sat down beside me, and put his arm around my shoulders. “Why are you crying?” he asked – almost bewildered, as if there was no need to cry. I looked into his face and began explaining how stupid and rebellious I was, how much Jesus had done for us, and went on about it for a minute or so. He sat patiently waiting for me to finish whatever I had to say; and when I did, He said very simple words to me, not something I didn’t already know, but they did something within my spirit.
“Jesus died for you too,” was all he said, but it hit something in my spirit, and immediately I felt the tears dry up as if someone turned off the faucet. I knew I hadn’t been personally identifying with Jesus, and therefore had not been able to be addressed by Him, but obviously, the problem had been ‘fixed’. Peace filled my being and my joy returned, so I was left looking at the angel, who in turn was looking at me – an awkward moment for me, but it didn’t seem to bother him. I understood he was making sure this person he’d been sent to was really okay. Then, without further ado, he got up, walked around to the end of the bed, and looking upwards, a column of God’s love descended on him, and he rose out of sight. This was quite a number of years back, when I was first starting out on my walk with God. This account was written up in Sophie Burnham’s, Angel Letters, page 100.
Another incident I had involved Satan mocking and threatening me, and yet another was to strengthen me when I was up against some opposition in a meeting.
God’s own words have been far more poignant, telling me things I needed to do, what is coming, leading me into certain revelations for this day, etc. They cover a wide range of topics and go places I couldn’t possibly relay without giving you some proper background. I’m not sure what you’re looking for Richmann, so hopefully this gives you an idea of what I’m speaking about.
Appreciate your response. Very interesting.
From a young age was told the same thing about Jmmanuel sacrificing his life for us to take away our sins. But then I came upon this video by Ed. Matrin about Jmmanuel moving to Kashmir in India after the crusifiction and living to the age of approximately 115 years.
Wondered why starving children exist in the midst of angels and God? But then did a lot of reading about the economics of the corporate world and their objective to exploit all resources for profit. Also the rampant over-population the world over to such an extent that need became manifest at the clearly visible margin and the answer was starring me in the face.
There appears to be a very sinister force operating on all of us that prevents us from seeing reality by appealing to our sense of wonder and beauty and peace as if we are somehow special.
Hi Richmann
I did have a look at the video for just a few minutes, but right now I don’t have the time to view all of it. I’m not sure who they are referring to, but regardless of what people say happened to Judas 2,000 years after the fact, the Apostles knew Judas and reported that he had killed himself. People have been trying to detract from Jesus ever since He lived and died, and rose again, and from anything the Bible has to say, but when angels say He died for us – that’s enough for me.
There is a sinister force operating in us for sure, and I’ve heard him speak to me too, but as far as us being special – we are all loved in God’s eyes. However, He is as much a Holy God as He is divine love, so it isn’t as easy as saying,’He loves us and therefore we’re all okay – no worries’. He’s just and pure, and those who chose to live in disbelief and clung to the darkness of rebellion and denial, He ‘sends’ to Hell – for that’s the darkness they’ve desired after.
The only way Satan wants us to ‘feel special’ is by appealing to our own ego and pride, and if we’ll take him up on it through those aspects, he’s more than happy to supply all the ‘I’m special’ we need to become totally deceived and under his control.
As far as man’s deplorable state beneath God’s watchful eyes, this is the result of original sin, and sin being a part of man’s nature ever since. No one is born truly innocent, we’re just born not have committed any sins yet, but as far as our nature goes, we all have inclinations to sin the minute we come to our mother’s womb. You don’t have to teach children how to lie, throw tantrums, become jealous, etc., because it’s already a part of them to do so. All they need is the right circumstance or situation, and these things rise to the surface.
I’ll check the video again when I have more time. I hope this assists in you understanding better, what you were asking about.
The souls in each of those starving children is nothing else but the essence of God. Have read that these particular souls are former kings or rich and powerful people in previous lives who’s willful actions caused destruction, poverty, destitution, and starvation. When such people die, their own souls, now in the primal environment of God, assess their deeds and resulting consequences binding their attention. In addition the medium they have just exited has a memory of these souls and the concommitant consequences of their actions so that when those souls re-enter that medium in a new life, they are drawn towards the fruits of the actions from their former lives. The souls has to go through these cycles to learn and evolve so there is no escaping the consequences of former actions. God can never send His own light into such a reality but watches helplessly in remorse because that part of His light was lacking in intelligence to the point that there was a lack of conscience in the presence of warnings of consequences while they were flying high. There is no comprehension of this nature of reality in the adherents of mainstream religion.
The mechanism is in plain sight. The Kenyan government recently legalized polygamy – a practice that was already prevalent in those parts of the world for hundreds of years. It is not unusual to find a man with four wives and four or more children from each wife. Someone rich and powerful can mannage such a lifestyle without consequences if the resources exist to provide for his issue during the course of their lives. But when this becomes habitual as a result of ignorance especially among those who cannot afford such a lifestyle, then the consequences are automatic. Again among such people there is a lack of understanding of what is the soul and why it needs to take physical form to evolve. Over time people are driven to blind faith in desperation. What is desperately needed is deeper thought generally to avert such outcomes. Expecting God to look after everything while one remains ignorant through one’s actions and lack of conscience is unforgivable!
Hello Brenda
I see that I was not enough clear in what I have said to you. I will begin with your last paragraph. I didn’t felt like a child, the thing is those who are beginning have the same reflections that you have, no offense.
Second, I really believe you when you say that you saw something, or Angel, whatever. What I don’t believe is your conlusion.
Third, you have nothing to back it up Brenda, and I can tell that the contrary is provable. So what I’m asking you is simple, prove me that I’m wrong.
Now, I have mention the word “milk” because I didn’t understand what was the interpretation of that word, this word have been said to me by another person, at this time I didn’t knew what this person meant. I begin to understand this word only when I speak to you.
This word was for me to make you understand that you are far to know what is this “Voice” that you heard.
1 Corinthians 3:2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
Hebrews 5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
Hebrews 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
1 Peter 2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
Now, I know that I’m not a teacher, but it’s my duty to make you understand “reason”.
The Bible give us the right to correct those who are not in the truth:
Leviticus 19:17 Let there be no hate in your heart for your brother; but you may make a protest to your neighbour, so that he may be stopped from doing evil.
Galatians 2:14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?
I repeat Brenda, it is my duty to try to prove you that you are wrong, why? Because many of your false understanding will be accepted to be true, but this is not true.
You don’t understand the reality, I will bring more proofs!!!!!
Paul the Apostles have said the the Ministry in the time of Moses was done by Angels:
Galatians 3:19 What then is the law? It was an addition made because of sin, till the coming of the seed to whom the undertaking had been given; and it was ordered through angels by the hand of a go-between. (Mediator like Moses).
The Angel that was on mount Sinai was not an E.T., I was a real Angel from God. Even though it was an Angel from God, Moses had to see his back only.
You certainly know that in the Bible there are diffenrent kind of Angels, some are purely material, others are spirit like. So that are spirit like we found many kinds, from the lowest to the highest. Those who are “low” in their Power are not dangerous to see, but those who are the highest are oblige to keep human alive to be able to transmit their messages.
Now Brenda, imagine the Christ.
Now there is another danger to keep in mind. The devil can deguise himself in angel of God. If you don’t take account of what I’m saying, well that situation tell me that you are under the Power of the Devil. I’ve got to remind you that the Devil know better then anybody the Bible. Whaterver he’s saying to you, this could be good, and this I have witness this fact.
(* _ *) (‘ , ‘) Bye for now
Starheater,
If we’re back on to trying to ‘prove’ me wrong, I’m not interested in bantering. If you don’t want to believe it, that’s your choice. No, Starheater, you are not my teacher, and do not know what I’ve seen or heard. Nor am I deceived, but if you want to think I am, that’s up to you. I will not continue these back-and-forths now, since you’ve made up your mind.
Hello Everyone
“Romans 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.”
This is a Master Key verse, for us to understand well. NO ONE on Earth, beginning from Adam to us today, is without sins (transgressions), there is no exception, all human that are flesh and blood are sinners whatever they are. This include The Elects of God.
Some of you will not be will not agree with, but I will bring proofs on what I’m saying.
You might say that the Elects according to the Bible will produce a 100% fruits, on this I agree. But you have to understand that what an Elect can produce is not synomym that he is PERFECT. He can produce perfect fruit, but he is not perfect. To produce perfect fruit, you need to have Charity, but this last cannot be fully at an 100% test.
Even if your Charity was great, you would not be without sins. Like Jesus have said: “Charity erase alot of sins”, HE didn’t said that this was suffisant to erase them all. Because the wright character of a Christian will be at is peak when he die. This is like an assembly line of car, you cannot say that the product is a car when he’s only at the middle of the assembly line, nor we can say about us that we are Elect from God, this will not be until the Judgement Day.
God will give White Robe only because we have accept HIM as our Savior, not because we have perfect white robe.
We have the SEED of perfection, but until we have a perfect body, we are not perfect.
Now for the name of Immanual, this name is for the identification of the Savior, The Christ Jesus.
Listen, when you buy a bottle of wine, you buy it for the wine, not for the bottle, but you pay the bottle too. Immanual is the Bottle that have a sticker to identify what is the product. Jesus is a Savior, this is what HE is, Immanual (God with us) where HE come from (Heaven).
You’ve got to keep in mind that Jesus was baptize at the beginning of is conception. HE didn’t need to be baptize, and here is the contreverse.
Remember that Jesus said that He didn’t come to bring Peace, but Division. Oops!!!
That where most of us don’t really understand. Why Jesus the Son Of God Almighty would do such a illogical thing. Because I have verify all what He said, and they are at my point of view, correct, or if you will, true.
So what is the main reason of this “Division”? Anarchy!!! For what purpus? To bring all men to God.
Now, let’s pretend that HE don’t want Anarchy to preval. This would have happen surely even though. Because there is no light in the Universe that we live in, only a faded one.
Please understand what I’m saying you all, even if I were an Elect, it take only a little spot of dirt on a white shirt to say that this one is dirty.
We are not in Heaven, so, we cannot be perfect. But God have bring to us, that HE will render perfect those that have been seeded by HIM.
Even the Bible could not bring us to the perfectness. I know that most of you have heard about the Catholic Saint, those who had an immense love in their heart that they could give all their possession. Question: What is the goal to give all your possessions? You tried to get rid of the poor by given your possessions to them. Now it’s you that need possession because you are poor.
The REAL GOAL is not in those doying, this goal is a question of regn, to be Kings or Priests, nothing to do with the poor of the world. But you’ve got to take care of those who are in needs, why? Because they are truly your brothers, because we came from the same source, this source have multiply many time, but you’ve got to understand by this that even if you don’t know everyone, they came from the same source as you came. So this is the foundation that give you the will, or the “good will” to help each others. But there’s an imperfection in that sort of Charity, it can lead to dependancy.
That why the real Charity is compose of “in” and “out”, the real Charity is to do what you want others to do for you, and to don’t do what you didn’t want others to do to you, in and out, the 2 side of the medal.
Now for the Pleadians, I have prove in the past that “Billy Meier” was a fake, a liar to name what he have done. This is part of the Great Illusion that the Bible have spoken. But the Grey are Earthlings like us, and they can die like us, even their flesh is not the same as we, they have life like we have. We are in the same BATH TUB, so there is not doubt in my mind that they are submit to errors or sins, we all are sinners, the Grey and Human. Take it or not, this is the TRUTH.
More to come
Bye Everyone
Please give link that falsifies Billy Meier.
Hello Richmann
I will make a research for you so you could verify for yourself. But if you have seen alot of videos concerning Billy Meier, pick-up the one that the Pleiadians ship dissapear, you will notice tha the branch at the left side of the screen doesn’t move during the dissapearing, but when the ship reapear, the branch at the left is moving, this is a proof that the video was made in two shots.
But I will try to found this adress for you.
Bye
Viewed a couple of videos of Meier’s disappearing and reappearing UFOs but never near a tree. Reports in the news in the last few years suggest that the US Armed forces has the ability to cloak matter. And nothing is impossible. Your claim about the branch not moving before the cloak but moving after the cloak does not prove anything. The wind could have been blowing at the moment the ship reappeared.
Here is a link the tries to explain a lot of Meier claims. In the video at the 18:33 – 18:49, we are told that three of the forestry profs asked to have their names removed. Whayt about the other three???
Here is another site that explains away a lot of the Meier case.
The interesting thing is it takes on the claimed physical evidence by people who are claimed to be experts in their field. Experts vary in their degree of experience but still it is good to know that they are looking at the case. Haven’t seen a rebuttal by the IIG investigator’s for this video? What about the advance prophecies and predictions of Meier that are now part of history. It just happens that these predictions and prophecies were discussed in the Meier Contact Reports which are not tackled by the debunkers.
The ETs made all efforts to conceal their activity but seemed to have allowed photographs and videos of their ships to give people some pause to think about the UFO case. They also made it clear that many governments of the world have developed similar vehicles that are not capable of interstellar travel but are a responsible for most UFO observations.
Then there is the case of the death of Vatican Popes predicted by Meier at least a decade before the occurrences. In fact Meier was taken by the ETs to witness the murder of John Paul 1. Meier predicted that the Pope who followed after would also meet his death in the same fashion which also occurred. We are still waiting for more predictions:
Money becomming like monopoly money.
Civil strife all over the world.
Possible collapse of Church in Europe as people lose faith in Christianity.
Fundamentalist Islam taking root in Europe.
Migrants moving to precieved developed countries in ever greater numbers.
Two civil wars in the US.
Russia attacking US/Canada from the North.
Microchipping of Mankind.
Overpopulation continuing.
Earthquakes and extreme weather in increasing frequency.
Then there is vast amount of spiritual information provided by Meier, as the most important contribution by the ETs, that uncovers the mystery of spirituality in a way that is otherwise clouded or mystified by the religions.
It appears that all seven prophets, including Meier, had contact with ETs.
The ET case seems to have something to it.
Please give link for Billy Meier fraud.
Benny,
I’m glad we agree on leaving it as it is.
Deep within a mind dwells the singular thought of true being, that awesome jump of intellect that tells us the why of our own existence. One embraces the old verbiage of “I am that I am” and then moves to realize that such thought suggests a view on consciousness of being here in time/space to help determine one’s own existence from afar and also up close. One whispers to himself in the deepest of night to fathom a guess or thought that they may not be just one being, but all of what you perceive. You are the one and the Other…a total many-sided being who can be all things observed here in what we call existence. Our dreams seem to amplify this thought for we are many and all of what we dream. Being multifaceted is being multidimensional or one who can be more than just mind but “that” whereby mentality and thought can even be contemplated. From a singular thought to a massive existence is the gestaltedness one can rise toward while holding these profound secret judgments. If one is all of what he/she observes, then death will never overtake this experience of being alive. One may die, but the focus will change from the one to the All. Consciousness of being here in many forms may be possible for much of what is observed is the knowing of information and the broadcast thereof. I am you and you are me. I would not know you if it were not for your message to me that I exist. We are truly one on some level.
Hi Benny
So I’ve had another look Benny, but my comment is the same, and I’ll tell you why.
Here’s the beauty of genuine faith – inspired by a real relationship with Jesus. Real faith is anything but blind or ignorant. To the contrary it’s inspired by the Word of God – Jesus, and once you’ve learned to walk with that Spirit – who is the truth, He guides you into all truth and let’s you know when something isn’t right for you, or true. I therefore don’t need to research everything with my mind to try to sort out truth from half-truth and lies, all I need to do is know His voice and follow Him. That’s not to say I walk around not reading anything, but I follow that Spirit first and foremost, reading what He leads me to, and refusing what He tells me to. In this case, it’s really easy.
The thing is Benny, I’ve been on that side you are now on – seeing ufos and under their influence, and while I did not speak to any of them, or they me, I was close to someone who did hear from them. I know the basic lie they give, and what their plan is, and I know whom they serve, and I can tell you it isn’t God in any sense of the word. As I said earlier, when I was converted, they were one of the first things that fell off my life, and I thank God every day He delivered me from them.
Speaking through devices on their chest, handing out ‘tablets’ to the poor – who are then ‘healed’, are just part of the lying signs and wonders scriptures teaches us about. I won’t be giving you specifics Benny, because I simply don’t need to go there to know this is not right, or true. If the man wants more people in his site, he’s going to have to get his people to look elsewhere for his converts – I’m not one of them.
Regarding religion not being spiritual – I think I was quite clear in stating that real Christianity is not a bunch of rules, following the doctrines of man, or self promotion, but having a living relationship with God/Jesus, and walking true to it. Since I’ve heard from God on numerous occasions, seen and spoken with angels, and had a number of spiritual experiences with God, I know what spirituality is.
If you want to discuss this side of things, I’m willing, but there’s not much more for me to say on the issues of ‘ets’. Talk later.
Brenda, it is quite clear that you have ceeded your self-responsibility for due dilligence to those who promise to do the thinking for you.
Jmmanuel rejected the name Jesus in his time because he knew in advance that his message would be twisted by rulers through time. He enjoined people to think for themselves by speaking in metaphor. However, most people took that to be code and words to be interpreted by an elite ruling class when all that was required was to use their brains to consider a finite set of possible conditions and outcomes for any given situation in real life.
In the case of ITIBI-RA, the ETs went out of their way giving a single pill to countless poor people healing them for six months without asking for anything in return or even giving a sermon. Even medical doctors were surprised at the results for otherwise terminal medical conditions. If you took the time to read the summary of that contact report, there is an entire book about the ITIBI-RA, then you know those pills were painstakingly produced by the ETs here on Earth without any magic or mystery involved.
Religion is good when it offers a set of rules, based on active thinking, to meet the challenges of the real world, in a way that does not imprison the thinking of it’s adherents but allows for free thinking towards worldly and spiritual progress. Unfortunately, all religions are now cults with mindless followers to serve the ellite agenda for having abundant numbers of slaves to provide for their every comfort. And when the religons fail to keep the slaves in line, heavily armed, well-paid, uniformed thugs stand ready in the name of the state to beat and terrorize unruly citizens.
Richard Dawkins talked about the “God Delusion”. A similar problem has for a long time taken over Science. Look for “Rupert Sheldrake – The Science Delusion Why Materialism is not the Answer” on youtube. Note that Sheldrake is pleading for people to start thinking for themselves and doing the due deligence before accepting anything.
Hi Benny,
I think you must have misunderstood one point I said. I don’t have ‘those who do my thinking for me’, but I do follow the Spirit of God. If we can’t trust God to know what’s right and best for us, we might as well pack it in now. Since He knows what direction to take, and when, – far beyond what we do, or can for that matter, it’s best we take our walking orders from Him until we have sufficiently grown up spiritually, to know for ourselves. Until we’ve grown out of our fallen state, we can think we know all kinds of things, and believe whatever we want, but it doesn’t make it so. It just makes us deceived.
I told you why I know these guys were wrong, I’m not guessing, nor did I get my info from ‘those who do my thinking from me’. I don’t mind discussing things Benny, but if you don’t take in what I’m saying, like you want me to listen to you, there is no discussion.
Brenda, I’m still not clear on a couple of things:
Can you please explain how “Spirit of God” is different than the “Creational Wisdom”/”Cosmic Consciousness” described by the Plajaren?
Can you tell me what is the difference between The Book of Mathew and Talmud Jmmanuel?
The following portion of your response is difficut to understand and leads to more questions:
Different people have different ideas/experience/intellect for what is right and best for them individually yet most, excluding the psychopaths, are willing to compromise and live on amicable terms with their neighbors and respect nature. Trust in God I take as trust in nature. Unfortunately, our economy is structured on profit above all else. If people were forward thinking so as not to tax nature on this planet with overpopulation, pollution, scorched Earth economic exploitation, and wars the people themselves would be playing an active role in the type of positive feedback they would receive from nature on this planet towards worldly and spiritual progress. But if people only say “trust in God” and ceed responsible action to some imaginary being, what are we to expect?
God cannot be limited in any way as that would contradict the definition of the word “God”. Limits can only be applied to the finite. Living and operating within limits requires that we collectively use our intellect and experience through timely and progressive action. No one is going to do that for us and no one really can be trusted to do that for us.
How “sufficiently grown up spiritually” must we be before we take our own marching orders. As finite beings, we will never have any measure with respect to that which is unlimited? How is this “growing-up process” going to occur if we do not make efforts ourselves to incresase our experience instead of ceeding that responsibility to some higher power to think and act for us?
You mention a “fallen state”. If we had a more lofty state previously that included an intellect arising out of experience, then how was it possible to have fallen to our current state? Could it be possible, that we have not had a more lofty state? Is it possible that some cosmic catastrophy, described by the Plajaren, caused their and our ancestors to seek refuge in our star system literally starting from scratch after ariving? Along the way there could have been individuals who thought they were the ellite and royalty and everyone should slave under and for them? The statements you make lead to countless questions.
There is a paucity of ideas in your statements on what actions we can take to make worldly and spiritual progress. In the cosmos as on this Earth, change is a constant. Are we just to pray to “God” and hope he will make everything better for us while we just sit and wait for God to make things happen?
Please explain?
Hello again Benny,
Before I answer your reply, I just want to ask a question of my own. Why did you choose me to discuss these things with, since it’s obvious there are others here who might engage you better than I have? Granted, I have missed about a whole year of reading or writing posts here, and therefore can’t say that I am up to date on who’s been commenting, but I don’t recollect any other posts here from you, so it is very curious to me that you came in talking to me about the site not being open to all materials, and the time being short. I’d like to hear your answer on that.
Though I am vaguely familiar with ‘creational wisdom’ and ‘cosmic consciousness’, they sound esoteric, and this is why I don’t delve into those kinds of doctrines. When I talk about the Spirit of God, or God Himself, I’m not talking about a nebulous, impersonal ‘being’ or thing, I’m talking about a very personal God who communicates with those who are willing to hear, and who’s Spirit is a specific experience we all should be seeking. Esoteric language and doctrine takes what is very personal and immediately able to be related to by every person, and ‘debrands’ it into a generic, up-for-grabs, do-with-it-what-you-want puddle, if you please. God is anything but.
If you read Acts 2 in the New Testament, you’ll hear about the experience of being baptized in the Holy Spirit, an experience I’ve had personally, which then enabled me to learn how to be led by that Spirit. He is real and personal, and as scripture says, leads us into all truth. Who or whatever ‘Plajaren’ is, I don’t know, but I have no need to be led to or by it/him.
Regarding the Talmud – you already know I’m not about to read it, so why ask me what the difference is between it and Matthew? Are you asking something – honestly, or trying to ‘lead’ me down a path of your choosing?
All I need to know Benny, is that Matthew is truth, inspired by the Spirit of Truth, and able therefore, to build faith in any who read it.
That you take trust in God as ‘trust in nature’ is the reason you have a problem understanding what trusting in God is. People can have all kinds of different ideas of what truth is, as I said, but that’s because they aren’t following the Truth – which is who Jesus is. Nature is not God, it was made by Him. And while I agree that we could only do ourselves a favour by taking care of, and respecting it, merely doing so is not following or trusting in God.
You say God is limitless. In that He Himself is not ‘contained’ in something, yes, but to suggest He is without limits and specifics in what is right or wrong, is not true. Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life….”, and that whoever would follow Him needs to “…take up his cross and follow me.” When you do that, you’ll know the truth, and that it is very specific, with very specific limits.
The next question you ask is the first one that may actually be a question, and not an attempt to lead me somewhere I’ve already stated I’m not going. Considering that God is the Creator, and Jesus – the truth, how can we not learn from them first before we walk on our own? And since God has a specific process we must pass through to know Him, how can we expect to spiritually grow up any other way than to walk in it until we’ve completed the course? You don’t expect a baby to jump to its feet and start teaching at a university, and that is absurd as it is to expect that by our own thinking, we’re going to grow up spiritually.
And the reason that is as absurd as it is, is because we are fallen. Adam and Eve fell the second they ate of the fruit, making all of us – who are Adam’s race, fallen in nature before we’ve even been born.
Lastly, that ‘paucity’ you’re referring to, that is “strait is the gate and narrow the way that leads to eternal life, and few there be that find it.” God dwells with those who have a humble and contrite spirit.
One more thing I want to add before I go. If you want to continue this conversation Benny, know that I’m not going to answer any more of these ‘questions’ that are obviously attempts to lead me into places I’ve told you I’m not going. Either come at this honestly or I won’t be engaging you.
Brenda, what can be said of the strength of a person’s faith when they cower in fear of any and all information stemming outside their faith?
You responded to my original post and I suggested you consider the links provided on the ETs and what they say regarding spirituality. Your responses suggested that you prefer to put the cart before the horse by not challenging religious dogma with your own intellect and experience. Hence, the discussion dragged on in hope of acheiving clarity. There was no dishonesty implied.
In the remainder of this response, I use “God” refering to the Self-Sustaining Creational Cosmic Consciousness.
Creational wisdom and cosmic consciousness seem esoteric to you but that is precisely what Jmmanuel was born to transmit to all and was captured in Talmud Jmmanuel (TJ). Those who did not understand and had no interest went their way. Others’ who understood and saw it as a threat to their position and power became his enemy and plotted against him as they still do to this day. Still others’ who recognized his message tried to learn as much as possible from him during the time alloted. Jmmanuel was a messenger who came in the form of man to deliver God’s message to mankind. God is not just nebulous, all of Creation is literally soaked in God. People on average have limited sensitivity so they are limited to a personal God. However, as their faith increases as a result of their expanding sensitivity, they will remove the self-imposed limits they place on God.
You mention Acts 2 in the NT conviently as TJ 3-30 to 3-33 describes a metalic light descending from the heavens, just after Jmmanuel had been baptized by John the Baptist, into which Jmmanuel went into after which the metallic light climed back into the sky. These are ETs of the same race as Gabriel, who was ordered by the Plajaren god to impregnate Mary, who took Jmmanuel for 40 days and nights in the metallic light to infuse him with the arcanum of knowledge. So it seems that the ETs are behind the message delivered to us by Jmmanuel However, that message is now corrupted in it’s current form just as Jmmanuel said would occur in the TJ.
I did not know nor assume that you had not read Talmud Jmmanuel. TJ was mentioned in support of the assertions I was making regarding Jmmanuel’s message to seek knowledge about Creational Wisdom yourself using your own intellect and experience instead of ceeding that responsibility to those claiming to offer their knowlege and understanding to that effect.
You take Matthew to be Truth without even considering TJ as a source for Matthew. Mathew wrote his book in all honesty to allow Jmmanuel’s message to reach a larger audience without having it banned by the authorities. A read of TJ 15 and TJ 25 will make it clear why the Romans nor the Pharisees would ever accept the TJ.
True. Nature was created by God. So what is better providing endless examples of Creational Wisdom? TJ 5-7: “Blessed are those who live according to the laws of nature, for they live according to the plan of Creation.
God sets immutable laws for Creation but those laws do not limit God’s evolution as change in the Cosmos is continuous. Those laws are evident in nature. But most humans are incapable of seeing those laws. Our tendency to overpopulate the planet beyond it’s capacity is a major problem that continuous to be the central source for most of our problems. Jmmanuel mentioned this in TJ 12-20.
How can you talk of a “specific process” and a “course” when the fundamental message from Jmmanuel to increase one’s intellect goes by the wayside while those in power corrupt his message and the people follow the corrupted message in ignorance and fear?
Jmmanuel spoke as a babe newly born asking God to bless him the day he was born, the day he would die, and in the hereafter! Only that one with foreknowledge of God would be capable of asking for such a blessing at birth by himself. Such was his intellect. Everyone else, needs someone else who has been taught of the existence of God to bless the newly born who do not have that knowledge!
You say that we are fallen without knowledge of the “original sin”. It just happened, that a long time ago, the Sirian overlords had lost the ability to defend themselves in physical combat. So they genetically modified the DNA to create a warrior race. To prevent that race from going over the Sirian overlords, a single gene was modified to limit the average age of that warrior race to approx. 100 years and to limit their intellect. The warrior race found it’s way to Earth and transferred that gene difficiency to all those on Earth as a result of their hyper breeding tendency that was also part of that gene difficency. The Plajaren have stated that in a few hundred years, our scientists will reverse the difficency if discovered. If not, we will naturally evolve to reverse that gene deficiency that is really what the “original sin” referred to.
Yes, ““strait is the gate and narrow the way that leads to eternal life”. But one needs to develop an intellect to identify the way when the way described by Jmmanuel was hardly comprehended by the people of his time. God is everywhere. Even the wrong doers know it because they are constantly plotting strategies to prevent being caught. But nature is more perfect than the wrong doers who in time will make them reap the fruits of their labors.
I have acquired all the information I need about your understanding of spirituality and do not need further discussion with you.
Hello Brenda
What I will say is not directed only for you, but for all those who participate in this blog. What I’m about, see that like the face “B” of the medal, or whatever you think for this exemple.
I will on unespected fashion for you to know:
When The Christ as enter the Holy of Holy’s, I couldn’t appear as HE HIS, and this because of HIS HOLINESS. So on the road to Damascus, He appear to Paul. But to protect Paul of dying, the Christ cause Paul to be blind. Paul have never seen the Christ “as it is”. If this was the case, The Christ would have force him to be alive like all the Prophets who have seen The Angel Of God face him.
God no matter who, no matter when will NEVER do exception. The “Voice” that you ear is the same that I ear, and this voice I teach, and the voice with the the help of the LOGIC I do lessons that they didn’t tought for themself.
Now the Question need and answer: Do the Elects will Judge the ANGELS? The other part of the question is: Why we have to judge the Angels?
Now, talking about the Greys, they are Earthlings like we are, and they are not better or worse then humans. I didn’t said that they are Holy, I say they they are humain like us capable of doying bad things and good things and this, exactly like humain, they have emotions like we do, are they made without sex, even if they didn’t have sexual organs, they are creature of God Almighty.
Brenda, do you realize what those words mean (God Almighty), this mean that this God have the Supreme Power over those creatures whatever they are. But they are not Demons, and you know Brenda that I don’t speak without proof, now here are those proofs for you to analyse:
Philippians 2:10
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Revelation 5:3
3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
Revelation 5:13
13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.
Those proofs are there for you to know, they probably don’t have humain flesh like we have, but they are not IMMORTAL, they can die like we.
Now the question that I have for you is: Do Demons dies?
I will go futher: Suppose that the Greys are Demons, but they can have body that have been made for them to exist as a race. Even though, their Master is the Christ, no doubt about this for my part.
What can I say more to make you realize that even the Christ was touch by the Demons name “LEGIONS”, you know what was their ends. All the Pigs went down in the water, they have drown so that the Demons could escape from the and be again FREE.
I’m telling you Brenda, like the Bible have said, if your Justice those not extend far in the World, your are not at this “very present” a good Christian.
To be Christian, is not a question of only emotions, but LOGIC and emotions.
Now the Justice say: Will you protect the weak, the miserable, the unjust? If you say yes, well Demons are part of it, Oops, Surprise.
The Voice that you ear is a test for you. Now the Bereans in the Bible was noble Jews, they have verify what the Apostles was saying about the Christ, and they admit that they were telling the truth.
Now Brenda, I will tell you a Great Mystery.
Jesus have that HE was not in this world to bring PEACE, but to BRING DIVISION. WHY? HOW? This ILLUSION will be so STRONG that EVEN the ELECT will be CLOSE to Fall in this TRAP.
The only thing that I’m asking you, is to consider what I’m saying. You are dear to me sister, and all my brothers too. I want you to have the BEST all of you, like God want you to have the best, don’t neglect nothing, think, please think about it.
I will talk you later
Bye Brenda
Really interesting article. Enjoyed reading it very much 🙂
Will Hart has posted a beautiful article on this site called “The Unity of Life & Consciousness” that also infers OBE’s are a function of simply tuning-in at a frequecny different that those that most people are conscious of normally!
Now for the parapsychology part
Could your spirit can be able to see you when you’re dead? The answer is YES.
But wait, there is much more to know about this phenomena. To be brief, it’s an “illusion” only in the “fact”. All your spirits are in your body, they will not escape until a certain time, and please, don’t be abuse by the fact that certain persons have seen the soul on the form of a fluorescent cloud that escape from the tomb. Those clouds are real, but the interpretation is wrong. Those clouds are in reality, organic gas that can burn if they are in presence of flames. So stick your feet on the ground.
Now, those gas are capable of retaining light, the source of light don’t have to be strong, ambient light are sufficient, or if I don’t have the right word “are enough” strong.
The “illusion” stand in the fact that the Akashic Records have ability to give the spirit this over view of himself, this contribute to “fool us”, because we live in a world that is fill to top of “illusions” of all kinds.
Why is that so? The God of Heaven wanted that is children’s to be alert, intelligent in all kind of things, all kind of sciences, all kind of religions, all kind of social sciences, to explain for those who haven’t yet understand the real cause, the real goal, the real Universe, this last is for our spirit to see by our logic and our inspirations, the How, the Why, and by WHO.
I’m not an exception of nature, my knowledge is equal to the “desire” that I have in me to see what most of us don’t see, and now, to hear what some of you hear, like Brenda that can hear voices, whatever they are for her, this is just a detail for me, I will not engage a war on this subject, they’re are matter that are more important to know at this moment.
“Illusions” is everywhere, we see with our eyes that the Earth is flat, we see with our eyes that that the Sun go around the Earth, we see with our eyes that God is not there, we see with our eyes that darkness exist, we see with our eyes that E.T’s are bad, this is all “illusions”. Men have overcome many of those “illusions”, but the worse are to come. Demons are bad, because few men are bad.
With all the knowledge I’ve gain year after years, I make mistake, and I will make them until God come to make me perfect, that is the goal, that is the Joy of God. NOBODY knows God like we should. That’s why, the Sons of God have made the Pyramids of Giza, and those are related in the Bible (Isaiah 19:19-20)
More to come!!!!!
Bye
For the article
Well I must say that opinion of on the lobe of the gateway. First I don’t understand the tittle, this is an handicap for a French guy. I understand partially but don’t ask me tp give you an explanation of his article.
One thing that is certain from my point of view, is that in certain specific condition we experience some real phenomenon. But when it come to UFO, Oops, don’t be unreasonnable. UFO are not illusion, they are real. If someone would say to me: ” I ear voices in my head” well I would have some foolish tought. Does he have a knife or a weapon that could arm me. But when considering closely this person, I would ask him question.
You could have the seizure that is the worse, you would not ear a single voice in your head. Car accident, trauma cause by falling on our head, whatever your imagination want to lead you on the different seizure of the brain, no voices you will ear.
This is illogical.
Listen, I am a reasonable man, well, where I live at this moment, I have heard voices, where I live before I didn’t heard voices. The first time that I heard those voices, I said to me: ” Am I getting nut”, “Am I beginning to loose my reason for foolness”.
The voice have said to me: “Don’t be afraid, your not a fool, this is only by the technology that we are capable to communicate with you” Ahhhh, wow, I though I was getting fool, this saying in my mind.
Then I said to the person that was talking to me: ” Why talking to me, why not to someone important”
He told me that I was the most important man on this Earth—-Yeah, yeah yeah, in your head. This Spirit was not Bilinguish, speak French, I don’t understand English. What!!!!!! You dont understand when I talk French. I didn’t believe Him.
I will stop here, it would take a book to related all the thing that I’ve said and do, because I was able to brought fear to those who wanted to do me arm physicly. One thing on what He insist, is that He wanted me to adore Jehovah. I said to him, no way. I said this name is associate with criminel in latency. People that let die their own childrens for a superstition is not well with me, this name also. I said to Him, the one that I adore is Jesus and His Father, no one else.
We battle one each other, and one day, he stop.
Now, I respect those who tell me that they ear voices, I don’t judge them like if they were fool.I think that those Spirit are there to test us in a manner, at the same time, the Faith in God is more present, not more important in force, but just more present.
Who can tell what are in our spirit, who can tell what would happen if this had happen to another person that believe in God + or -, I don’t think that Spirit would have let this person goying mad.
He ‘s always saying that He love me more then anything in the entire world. When it’s time to ear him for a lesson, I ear him very well. even when I listen to the TV. So, I ask him to lower the volume, just to give me a break, and He do so. I demand that He take a woman voice, a little after, he have a woman voice.
And sometime I could grrrrrr, give him a punch on the nose. No joke, no laugh, I said to him, are you a machine, you are boring. For all this months pass with this Spirit, only 2 joke, hum, was good.
He’s pushing me to do the dishes, ah, do hate hate that!!! If you don’t do the dishes I will remind you over and over. Grrrr, ok, I will do it after this, and He don’t mind, really strange. This is like I was maried, oh boy, but I like him.
Bye for now
Hello Everyone
In the Bible, the Temple is a copy of our body, soul and spirit. But the the Holy of Holy, the Spirit of God must be. But this happen occasionnaly. Why? Because the Holy Spirit stay only with our spirit when this last is without “blemish”, and this is not possible. We can have a certain state of purity, but even with the Holy Spirit you cannot be 100% Holy like HIM.
That’s why, when Jesus will come, we will ALL need is MERCY and forgivingness, me the first. If you don’t agree, you will just have to read the Book of Act. Peter and Paul were not always on the same “frequency”, no don’t fool yourself, even if you would have the Holy Spirit, that is not the seal of perfection, it is just like having a stamp on your forehead, this stamp is not able to bring you to the perfection, but it allow you to be when Jesus arrive, on the list who will have immortality, or if you like, the real perfection that allow you to enter in the immortality.
I know that Brenda will kill me to say that (manner of speaking), but if we would have a personnal relationship with God, and when I speak this I mean a real relation, we would be in heaven. Sorry sister to bug you of again, perhaps I don’t really understand the real meaning of what you are saying. But I have the tendancy of understand the word as it is, I am not picking the metaphoric sense.
Anyway, we are all half blind when we talk about the God Almighty. Angels have been made to deliver message for the God Almighty, they are is messengers. This is the foundation of God, I speak about those Angels, those Angels are not dangerous for our lives.
All Angels that come from heaven are dangerous for us to die, those Angels have to keep us from dying when they want us to prophetise like certain prophets. Depending on the sort of Angels, because there are few of them who have the “Name of God” writen on their spirits, I hope you will understand what I’m saying Brenda.
But listen, what I’m saying is not really important, the thing that’s really important is that you are my sister and that you are a treat for me to read. 🙂
So don’t listen to “Errorheater”, I like you as it is.
Bye Everyone
Starheater
Where do we get those little faces that you post at the end of your comments?
Starheater,
Thank you.
A well written article on a subject matter studdied by those who have no experience with OBE’s trying to explain the experience.
But first let’s look at the phrase “temporal lobe epileptic seizure”. This is simply an electromagnetic overload “outside” the capacity of the biological tissue concerned followed by the action of “electrical grounding” by the larger volume of tissue covering the tissue affected to drain the overload.
What exactly is so difficult here? We are after all physical, with electromagnetic wiring, and spiritual. Okay, I just used that taboo word for scientists because they are clueless about what “spirit” is as they have no instrumentation to measure much less manipulate it for study.
And I have heard all manner of argument that the OBE phenomenon is pure imagination after all how does one initiate it? Fair enough! But I allways respond saying that initiating the experience is itself the wrong way of thinking about OBE’s. Those who have OBE’s find that it is effortless requiring no input as in drugs, alcohol, mind altering smoke, music or mood swings or anything else. All that is needed is “sensitivity for the spiritual”! It is like tuning-in to that reality! It is as simple as waking-up in the morning and feeling you need to pass water or take a crap. It is as simple as you needing to be somewhere distant NOW only that no mode of transport can possible take you there NOW! It is as simple as injesting food to satiate hunger or wanting to hold someone skin to skin or to look into someone’s eyes simply to satisfy the desire to completely transfer information and experience!
The article confined itself to Psycholog and the implications of symbolism in Science and Art relating to the temporal lobe. Missing was coverage on the other six spiritual nodes.
Looking at the history of medical science, one quickly finds that medicine is less about healing and more about profit, control, and ownership of mankind. Herein lies the problem. Acknowledging the spiritual would come in the way of the principle medical and political objectives.
To put it simply, one has to expand one’s sensitivity to oneself and one’s surroundings as much as possible removing any and all prejudice in order to confirm the spiritual and experiences of that frequency! The description of Plato’s Philosopher King as a King of Wisdom was an attempt in this direction.
Hi ufo
You nailed it. “A well written article on a subject matter studied by those who have no experience with OBE’s trying to explain the experience”. I guess I could have said, ‘On the matter of faith, we go to the unbelievers who refuse to believe?’ Loved it.
Brenda, this site sure does not allow material to be freely posted. Made a response post at least a day ago, but still don’t see it. It had vital links to a treasure trove of information on the subject but from the perspective of the ETs.
If you read the material, it becomes obvious why ETs and Spirituality are not acknowledged by the powers that be! Read the material diligently and spread the word to any who will listen. There is not much time left!
The links spelled out are:
rune DOT galactic DOT to
and
futureofmankind DOT co DOT uk
Hi Benny,
Thank you for the links. My intention is to look at them when I have time – so it might take me a couple of days to get back to you.
I’m not sure whether you know or not, but in my posts I’ve said several times that the ets that people are in contact with are not who or what they seem or say they are. They are demonic. However, I am well aware that not everyone agrees – in fact most on this site don’t. Nevertheless, I will look into these sites.
I want to add though that I totally agree – there is not much time left at all. I’m much more on the spiritual side of things, in particular Christianity – and by that I mean one that involves a living, vibrant relationship with God, not a bunch of rules, doctrine based on what man thinks, and self promotion. I know people have supernatural experiences, and much more so this last 20 years than ever before. And it makes total sense to me that parts of our physiological beings are involved in these experiences – why wouldn’t they be? After all, our spirits are in these bodies. It’s life and energy have to show up somewhere. But to say our brains are the ‘source’ of these experiences is just plain denial by people who want control of everything, especially God.
I just wanted to be sure you knew where I was coming from, so that if my comments on what I find are not quite what you expected, you’ll know why. But I’m interested to know what you’re referring to and why you said what you said. Talk later.
Hello Again Benny,
I had a look at the two sites you mentioned, and while I haven’t read through any articles, I did have a look at several of them and got the general gist.
As I stated above, I know far better than to trust these guys, or take in one word from them as truth. I know what they are so there is no point in me reading their material. I got close enough to them before I was converted to Christ, and after I experienced Him, I knew better than to listen to these guys at all. I gather the Rune site isn’t doing that well, and personally, I didn’t appreciate their attitude or language, so I won’t be ‘spreading their word’ for them.
The spirituality I’m talking about has nothing to do with ets or ufos, but visitations from angels, Jesus, and various supernatural communications and experiences that definitely come from Heaven – which is indeed a real place and not within us in the state we’re in. I’ve nothing against you as I don’t know you, and haven’t communicated with you much at all, so I’m sorry to seemingly throw your recommendation back at you. All I can say is it’s not with malice.
Brenda, please point-out for me the parts of any of the ET contacts that you have problem with so that I can understand your viewpoint better. Be specific.
So far have read the Meier Contact Reports together with Talmud Jmmanuel and James Deardorff’s study of Talmud Jmmanuel vs The Book of Mathew. I like the Talmud Jmmanuel better because it enjoins mankind to take responsibility for their actions as there is no GOD or non-corporeal Angels who are going to interceed for a people who do not respect self-responsibility and who ceed responsibility to crooked politicians who forever promise what can never be delivered and only deliver the people to economic instability, war, and eventually poverty and destitution as a result of nuclear war. This is what was meant with there not being much time left. Prayed before reading these materials and continue to pray now for truthful guidance from the highest intelligence and for strength in right action towards progress in worldly and spiritual affairs.
Also read the contact reports from IARGA, ITIBI-RA, and undersea.
In all the cases, there is no magic or sorcery. It is simply hard-earned advanced technology and civility among the ET races concerned that allowed them to save themselves. They did have help from other ETs in their time of difficulty, but even then, those ETs who were doing the helping did not do everything for the ETs who were approaching self-annihilation. In every case where an ET race survived and became space farring, the ETs had to work together and help each other planet-wide. That is not happening here on this Earth. Here, our own government is surrepticiously undermining the livelyhood of it’s very own citizens while destabilizing the lives of people of other nations to create a slave planet.
You can read the playbook of our leaders by googling “The Hidden Tyranny antimatrix” located at antimatrix DOT org. It is a grueling three hour read. If you still have doubts, google “Elizabeth Dilling” located at come-and-hear DOT com. These people have not only corrupted politics and the law but also all the main religions by requiring the followers of all the religions to ceed their self-responsibility to GOD. Ponder that thought carefully! It is one thing to ignore immutable natural and cosmic laws as a result of ignorance and stupidity but even worse is to ceed the self-responsibility that natural and cosmic laws require of each individual to those claiming to produce all manner of promisses in return for one’s allegiance to questionable leadership and governance. Do you know what happened to Pope John Paul I and the Pope who followed? They were poisoned because they would not agree to the criminal activities ongoing at the Vatican for hundred’s of years.
In any case, I am hoping to see specific details on why you discount the ET contact reports and side with religion as religion has nothing to do with spirituality! Blind faith originates from ignorance and leads to ignorance. Faith on the other hand, is grounded in Truth and Science that can be repeatedly verified by scientific experiment. Spiritual experience is a function of one’s sensitivity to the spiritual. That level of sensitivity requires experience grounded in Truth and Science in the course of living life. There is no magic or belief system involved!
Appreciate your response.
Hello Benny
You’re not the only one that is censure, bah…I have said something that was not in the general reality that the site admit to be real, or the readers of this site, and I don’t think they are many, are not ready to know the secret fabrication mystery of the CARAMILK…HUMANS, YOU ARE NOT READY FOR THIS SECRET!!!!
Many site in French have censure applied, specialy religious site, site that are related to talk show on radio have the same censure (French site).
That doesn’t wrinkel my face a single time. Because I know now that there is nothing to be scare of, I’m not even anxious about it. I don’t believe the “illusion” that they want us to believe. The Grey’s are Earthling, and they are submit to the same illusion the we are submit.
More Later
As of last night, I received a massive dose of who and what I am. I have been meditating hard on understanding the mind that I have come to think that I am. I thought I shared my intellect, or part of it with Godliness and I still feel that a largely minuscule part of me indeed is part of that great whole. For one instant last night while thinking upon my part of this great experience of thought, I entertained a tiny interlude that I just might be the leader of this experience in Godly cognition. I thought, could I be God on a little vacation here for a respite??? At that very instant a gargantuan Clap of Thunder announced itself louder than I have ever heard or felt, and almost fell out of my chair. Light had flooded my dark room to give me a clue a few seconds before but never, no never had I been privy to such a sudden clap of thunder. My wife had just announced that she thought the storm we had been experiencing for the last hour was over according to radar. God’s answer to me was abjectly appropriate. This morning I went outside and found my prize ancient oak had been annihilated by a strike not more than 20 feet from my chair in the house. So, when one begins to think he/she knows “all? they just may get an abrupt answer from the source that no, you are extremely wrong!
I love how God talks to us…I am still in awe of just being here…
The Universal Mentality of Godly Thought that massively guides through application of mind power to the tools of assemblage within and without of physicality is so beyond the part’s ability to comprehend. Man, thrashes against the stones of life and is ill prepared to know how great he/she could be if selfish thoughts could just be eradicated. Meditation can open up one’s ability to transcend from their abode or Holy Temple to enter into an association with Our other parts of the whole, but Empathy must grow exponentially. It is the degree of selfishness that impairs our souls from realizing the totality of our true being and becoming. If one prays or meditates upon the harmonic ability to union with God through constant thought upon the superseded expanse of potential, then a breakthrough can occur.
All that is needed is to expand one’s sensitivity. We are already just as spiritual as we are physical. No need for drugs, alchol, activity, prayer, or anything else. Just be yourself completely!
Hello Ron
God don’t speak the kind of language discribe by your sudden experience. This is more a coincidence then a special kind of language of God. It could occur twice that this wouldn’t mean anything but coincidence.
Tell me, (this is a real story) suppose that today you win the first prize at a loterie, and exacly one year later you win again the first prize. Question: This is God will or what?
But God on the other half of this fact is responsible for this, but how? Why? Listen carefully now, I will reveal you HOW.
YOUR MENTAL DISPOSITION.
You could be a good person, a bad person, you have the right disposition of your spirit, you WIN, you don’t have to possess the FAITH to lift mountain, it as the same result that if you were fill with Faith like the Moon.
The Pyramid of Giza tell us that we have 3 spirits, 3 souls, 3 bodys. In the past, on this site, I have explain all this…I don’t know how to tell it in English, but I wil say the: “how it work”. As you know, “hazard” does not exist. But because God exist, “how it work” is enormously complicated, just look the DNA, and look what can do 4 DNA letters.
This is the same for the 3 spirits that we have, the conscience is the third one, the other 2 are over your head. You don’t even have conscience of those 2. Are what a portion of God Almighty. NO!!!!! Why NOT. Because God is PERFECT, even if you have those 2 Spirits, they cannot link to God. Those 2 are there to give you differents hability, music, sudden comprension, phenomenal memory etc…. But you are not perfect, but your hability CAN BE.
When we speak about Akashic Records, you deal with the Second Pyramid, you’ve got always to start from the smallest Pyramid. Why? Because they go one in another, the smallest go’s fit the second one and the second one fit in the third one. The problem is the our body Spirit that is not perfect, that’s why Kheops don’t have a cap stone.
God Almighty will render perfect our world, our “dimension” if you like. But that doesn’t stop there, in our dimension, it will go futher the lowest dimensions, where demons are living.
Do you understand now why I said that His real NAME was:
MORE-THEN-PERFECT
Bye Ron
With all due respect, I know where of I speak and while your advice is good for yourself, I know mine is as well founded as yours. I fear you have a problem with hegemony in that your pronouncements are to you, law for others. Realize your worth for God, the multifaceted mind of this hologestalt presence is as well founded for others as well as yourself. We are all His.
A well written article on a subject matter studdied by those who have no experience with OBE’s trying to explain the experience.
But first let’s look at the phrase temporal lobe epileptic seizure. This is simply an electromagnetic overload outside the capacity of the biological tissue concerned followed by the action of electrical grounding by the larger volume of tissue covering the tissue affected to drain the overload.
What exactly is so difficult here? We are after all physical, with electromagnetic wiring, and spiritual. Okay, I just used that taboo word for scientists because they are clueless about what spirit is as they have no instrumentation to measure much less manipulate it for study.
And I have heard all manner of argument that the OBE phenomenon is pure imagination after all how does one initiate it? Fair enough! But I allways respond saying that initiating the experience is itself the wrong way of thinking about OBE’s. Those who have OBE’s find that it is effortless requiring no input as in drugs, alcohol, mind altering smoke, music or mood swings or anything else. All that is needed is sensitivity for the spiritual! It is like tuning-in to that reality! It is as simple as waking-up in the morning and feeling you need to pass water or take a crap. It is as simple as you needing to be somewhere distant NOW only that no mode of transport can possible take you there NOW! It is as simple as injesting food to satiate hunger or wanting to hold someone skin to skin or to look into someone’s eyes simply to satisfy the desire to completely transfer information and experience!
The article confined itself to Psycholog and the implications of symbolism in Science and Art relating to the temporal lobe. Missing was coverage on the other six spiritual nodes.
Looking at the history of medical science, one quickly finds that medicine is less about healing and more about profit, control, and ownership of mankind. Herein lies the problem. Acknowledging the spiritual would come in the way of the principle medical and political objectives.
To put it simply, one has to expand one’s sensitivity to oneself and one’s surroundings as much as possible removing any and all prejudice in order to confirm the spiritual and experiences of that frequency! The description of Plato’s Philosopher King as a King of Wisdom was an attempt in this direction.
Hello UFO
Ufo and Ofu are twins. Hahaha, 🙂
Bye Ufo
While I find the article well written and considerate of the different sides of the subject, going to science to decipher and explain God and how He works is like going to a oil rig for advice on pet training. Science wants to bring everything under the control of its knowledge, so of course Paul cannot have had a vision, he has to have had a seizure, because science can cut a skull open and put the brain under a microscope, or hook it up to various sensors and machines and ‘watch’ how it operates, but they can’t do that to God, so He must not exist.
What is usually the case however, is that these scientists have not had an angelic visitation, or heard God speak, been spontaneously healed of anything, etc., and therefore rely on other people’s ideas, doctrines, and in this case paintings. The Cherub with the flaming sword did not strike at Adam or Eve, much less aim to pierce Adam’s brain – no matter what some artist brushed on his canvas, since to begin with, the ‘sword’ wasn’t a metal sword you wield to injure someone, but rather of spiritual substance which would not allow Adam or Eve to approach the garden. God didn’t want either of them injured, never mind mentally incapacitated, He didn’t want them eating of the tree of life and living forever in their now, fallen state. It was for their good, not because He was ‘punishing’ them.
Not every person who has had a vision, talked with God, seen angels or Jesus Himself, or visited Heaven etc., has been in a trance to do so. I personally, have never been in a trance, or had a seizure for that matter, but I have experienced all of the above – most while wide awake and very lucid; and I’m one of millions who can attest to these and other experiences with a very personal God.
I totally agree that neurologists are throwing the baby out with the bathwater, but the brain, though working with the spirit, is not the doorway to God. God tells us the pure in heart will see Him, and that He dwells with the humble and contrite spirit. I think it very interesting that we are supposed to believe scientists because they say so, and have ‘proven’ to themselves something is true, but we shouldn’t believe what we have seen, heard, and experienced all in one. It’s easy to see where this goes.
Hello Brenda
In the Bible, the sword represente the “Word of God”, since those words in the Bible are true, naturelly, if we understand them, those words act like a sword that is capable of “unite” and “disunite” our believe, false faith, etc…
Scientists are normally “blinded” by their spirit of matter, matter is all that their is for them. But, they’re not all like this, some of them, more that they search and more they believe that God exist.
But what we don’t know about scientists, is that, there alot of who pretend they don’t believe in God, but in their mind they believe. Why is that so? Because they don’t want to be put aside by those who don’t believe. Beside this facts, we can had another reason to this one, they don’t want to project the image of weakness, because this reason have always persisted all those years.
One thing that I would like to tell. The majority of scientific discoveries have been made by scientits that believe in God, this is a fact, and they are many, much more that we think. So when I read an article like this, I hope only that this scientist is not serious in is mind.
I know that you’ve said one day, that when you convert to Christ, all those strange things disapear. I don’t doubt what you’ve said because the same had happen to me.
Keep searching my little sister, whatever you’ll find, I will be there, for the others too.
Bye Brenda
Hello Brenda
It’s me again, I hope that you don’t mind that I ask you some questions. I’m very curious, I’m not sure why, but I think this curiosity take is source that you call the spirit that talk to you, God. I remember that I have in the past ask the same question, but I would like you to give me a description of the voice that you hear, but most of all, what I say to you (if there is no indiscretion), and what thing that you do that he have told you to do.
This is just to compare with the spirit that talk to me.
Bye Brenda
Starheater,
As anyone can see if they read the posts on this site, I’m quite willing to discuss issues, share, and ask and answer questions, but I can’t do that with someone who simply doesn’t want to believe anything I say. Your constant condemnation and ridicule makes sharing impossible, and that is why I have not responded to you – as I already told you.
You’ve already made it quite plain that you don’t believe what I’ve heard or seen – which is up to you, but I know what I’ve heard and seen and will not deny it. I’m not angry – just in case it sounds like I am; I’m simply stating where your responses have left us. You say your ‘curious’ about my hearing ‘the source that I call God’. I don’t have a ‘source’ that I call God. I have heard from God, either you believe it or you don’t. And if you don’t, then on the issue of God and what He’s said and shown to me, we have nothing to share. I don’t push Him at people who don’t want to hear, but I don’t pretend I haven’t heard Him either.
Hello Brenda
I know that you are more intelligent then me, but I will not be a fool for anyone. When I speak on this site, what I say come with proofs, so don’t push me around like a little children.
If someone is shock only by the fact that I want certains proofs, well sorry Lady to offende your PRIDE, for my part, I don’t mind to be on the seat of judgement, if it could serve the group well, go ahead real fast, I’m not afraid of the truth.
On the other half of my reason to ask you in detail, is only for comparison, simple as that, for this is not a contest for me, contest between me and you, I hate competition, this is why I will repeat what the angel have said to me that I didn’t understand when I said it the first time. I will repeat it:
“MILK”
You know what is the interpretation of this word in the Bible? If you read it, I wont go futher then that, after all, this is between me and you, sister of mine.
Bye Brenda, sorry for the pain
The right word is not “sorry” but “pardon me”. 🙁
Hello Brenda
I have been thinking of you a good portion of the night, and most of all, about my intimate reasons to seek in me if I was not in the mood to teach other.
Whatever the reason that you may think about me, whatever the reality may be, in my point of you the judgement you have about me trying to supposedly “force” you to accept my ideas is wrong.
I would not accept the fact that I must believe something that is the contrary of what the Bible teach oly to be polite. I’m polite and respectfull concerning your personality. The only thing that I want from is the same effort to procude the proofs about your saying.
If I speak on a subject and I’m vague about what I’m saying, I’m sure you’ll be there to try to ask me more details that could be helpfull for you. The is the same for me.
I don’t know your age, I have read many article that you have explore all the avenues, but I have found that they were many “type” of Brenda. Some are very explicit and specific, others that are “funky” whit a touch of paranormal new age.
What that I’m really certain is that we are in the same “bath tub”, and we are “all” susceptible to do mistakes, sins (transgressions), those are the fields that we are good at.
So I would like, if you are willing, to consider what I’m ready to do for you. Lately, few weeks ago, we have discuss about this matter, and have lead to division. This is not my “goal” with everyone on this blog. Whoever inform me, I will keep his information if this one does not contredict the Bible. Sometime, it is difficult to search the Bible for the verses that will justify what we are trying to prove to others.
So, this said, I would like you to explain to me what is that make you think that God talk to you. Remember one thing Brenda, my first language is French, so if you speak an academic language, I will not understand all that you will say.
Have you ever encounter someone that was capable of blowing your mind? And when I say “blow your mind”, is a term that is not appropriate. To describe what more the action that your mind will face is comparable to the launching of an atomic bomb on a little town.
This mean in pratice, that I will wipe out all your truths, theories, beliefs to the ground, nothing will stand, the ground will be level, no bumps, no holes.
If you think that I’m joking, or that I’m presumptuous, will see about that, you’ll be sorry for even think about it.
NO TO RETURN TO THE SUBJECT
It’s important to notice that in our World, or Universe, all that we see at first sight is “Illusions”. Beginning with the Earth; the Sun seem to revolve around the Earth. They are saying today that the Sun is a mass of millions degree of burning fuel (hydrogen and others components), if this is so, why the space surronding the planets have a tempeture of
-450°F (approx).
They are saying that the Earth is not to far and not to close from the Sun. Do you realize the “Illusion” they are trying to teach us, I may not be well advise to say that they know more then that.
One thing that they know, the Moon have an atmosphere. You are surprise, you don’t believe me?
Question: Did you ever see an asteroid that glow in space near the Sun? According to what the show us, no chance!! Asteroids don’t even reflect light, ah… just a little little bit.
So why does are Moon shine, or reflect the Sun? If you were on the Moon, you could see the Earth shine. Why the Earth shine?
Sorry I have to leave
To continue
Bye
Hi Starheater,
Thank you for levelling with me and being as honest as possible.
I am not judging you Starheater, I am simply telling you that what you are doing makes it impossible for me to share with you. I’m not asking you to accept something you don’t want to, but I can’t deny what I know either, and I know God has spoken to me, I know I’ve seen and spoken with angels, I know the voice of His Spirit, and I have seen Jesus and heard Him speak to me. If you can’t accept that, there’s nothing I can do about that, as what I’m talking about is in scripture.
I am happy to point out scriptures that confirm what I’m saying, but again, if you disagree that the scripture confirms what I’m saying, there is little point in me repeating it over and over. When I’ve explained something as clearly as I can, that’s all I can do, and that is what I try to do at all times.
Yes, I guess I do come across differently at times – all I can say to that is I am being me. I’m the same no matter where I am, writing or talking, and I’m just being as honest as I can be. Sometimes I’m a bit rushed – as we look after abandoned and abused animals, and they can be quite a handful; not to mention I’m just getting my book ready to publish, so I might have more time to put into answering a post on some days more than others. As for the ‘funky’ me, I find that hilarious. I’ve never been a new-ager, but indeed, it is true, I have been led into paranormal activities and other truths that are sometimes connected to New Age material. If there is a connection between me and them, it’s purely by chance, because I’ve never been a fan of that heady, self-taught spirituality.
I appreciate what you said about this last few weeks having created a division between us, and that this is not your goal. I’m glad to hear it. I can only suggest that if you don’t understand how God could speak to me, or how it is that angels came into my room and talked with me, that you ask how this works, rather than telling me it can’t work. Because it did occur, and I would be lying to say it didn’t. If you think it’s not supposed to happen, you’re better off to take it up with God, since He’s the ‘boss’, and He’s the One who decided to send an angel to me.
As far as the moon having an atmosphere, you didn’t blow my mind on that one because I already believe it. I get what you’re saying about asteroids not shining, while the Moon and Earth do, but I think there’s more science involved with answering those truths, and I’m not up on my science. I always thought the atmosphere around the Moon and Earth reflected the light of the Sun, but as I say, I could be way off on that since I don’t know my science well enough.
In any case, Starheater, I don’t mind explaining things in greater detail, or in different ways, if I can see you’re trying to understand how something works, but to tell me something is ‘not possible’ when it has happened to me, as I said it happened, that gives me no choice but to end the dialogue, because it did happen, and I can’t say it didn’t. If you can see your way clear to just ask for more understanding, we can probably get somewhere with our conversations. Talk later.