9-11 Anniversary – Who did it?

11th Anniversary of September 11

We all know the official story of September 11, 2001: four jetliners were hijacked by groups of four and five Arabic men armed with box cutters, who proceeded to fly three of the four jets into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon. Subsequently the World Trade Center Towers, weakened by the impacts and fires, collapsed into piles of rubble. The FBI had compiled a list of hijackers within three days, and it was so obvious that Osama bin Laden had masterminded the operation from caves in Afghanistan, that there was no need to seriously investigate the crime or produce evidence. The “retaliatory” attack on the Taliban would soon commence.

Is this story true? Its central assumptions have never been tested by an official government body whose members lack obvious conflicts of interest. There are numerous red flags in the official story, which requires a long series of highly improbable coincidences. Questioning that story is an act of responsible citizenship.  — Source:  http://911research.wtc7.net/index.html

WTC7 –  the Untold Story

Most TV documentaries about September 11 do not mention collapse of the WTC7.  Below are the reasons why…

Building 7 was a 47-story skyscraper that was part of the World Trade Center complex. It would have been the tallest high-rise in 33 states. It collapsed at 5:20 pm on September 11, 2001. It wasnot hit by an airplane and suffered minimal damage compared to other buildings much closer to the Twin Towers.

According to the government, fires, primarily, leveled this building, but fires have never before or since destroyed a steel skyscraper. The team that investigated the collapse were kept away from the crime scene. By the time they published their inconclusive report in May, 2002, the evidence had been destroyed. Why did the government rapidly recycle the steel from the largest and most mysterious engineering failure in world history, and why has the media remained silent?

The fall of Building 7 with all of the characteristics of a controlled demolition is the focus of the ongoing campaign called Remember Building 7.

 Building 7 in relation to the rest of the World Trade Center complex:

This building, the World Trade Center Marriott Hotel, was the closest of any building to the towers. Despite being crushed by thousands of tons of steel falling from 1000 feet, it did not completely collapse. Image Source>>

Halfway through Building 7’s 6.5-second plunge, streamers suggestive of demolition charges emerged from the facade. The entire website WTC7.net is devoted to the subject of Building 7.
To learn more about Building 7, visit “7 Facts about Building 7”, which includes photos of Building 7 before, during and after its destruction.

What Caused Building 7’s Collapse?

This question would appear to be the greatest in engineering history. In over 100 years of experience with steel-framed buildings, fires have never caused the collapse of a single one, even though many were ravaged by severe fires. Indeed, fires have never caused the total collapse of any permanent steel structure.

What was done to answer this most important question? The only official body that admits to having investigated the curious collapse of Building 7 is FEMA’s Building Performance Assessment Team (BPAT), which blamed fires for the collapse but admitted to being clueless about how fires caused the collapse.

People who have seen buildings implode in controlled demolitions are unlikely to be as challenged as FEMA’s team in understanding the cause of Building 7’s collapse. They will notice, upon watching the videos, that Building 7’s collapse showed all of the essential features of a controlled demolition.     Read More:  http://wtc7.net/collapsecause.html

 

“Nearly ten years since the attacks that took my son’s life, we have not received an impartial, evidence-based accounting of the events of that day, even though they have been used to justify a war we are told will not end in our lifetimes. The collapse of Building 7 is one anomaly among many, but we focus on Building 7 because it is clear that when America becomes aware of it, common sense will prevail, public demand for the truth will grow and it will pave the way to a broader investigation of 9/11. Please join me in calling upon the Manhattan District Attorney and the New York City Council to open a new investigation.”

– Bob McIlvaine, Father of Bobby McIlvaine, WTC 1

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From across the Hudson, people watched the burgeoning North Tower dust cloud engulf the 500-foot tall World Financial Center buildings.

The remaining tower of New York’s World Trade Center dissolves in a cloud of dust and debris about a half hour after the first twin tower collapsed about an hour after each of the towers were hit by hijacked airliners in one of numerous acts of terrorism directed at the United States September 11, 2001. The pictures were made from across the Hudson River in Jersey City, New Jersey.  REUTERS/Ray Stubblebine
Source http://www.911review.com/attack/wtc/dustclouds.html

 

PS1 Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura: 9/11: The Pentagon

The idea that a missile or explosives—not a hijacked jetliner—damaged the Pentagon on September 11, 2001 seems the most unlikely of 9/11 theories. That is, until you look at all the factors, which include eyewitness testimony, crime scene video, expert analysis and the question why, with 85 cameras trained on the building, have only five frames of crash footage have ever been released? Jesse Ventura leads a serious investigation into a tangled web of clues that some say are too sacred to even touch.

 

Who has all the answers to the September 11?

Shouldn’t the top people who were in charge of  US security and defense in 2001 know the Truth?

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Who Did It?

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” Did I Do That?

Did you know?

The Bush family is a prominent American family, with a net worth of $60 million. The Bush family has built their net worth from a family of successful bankers and businessmen that spans through three generations. In the bush family you have two U.S. Senators, one Supreme Court Justice, two Governors, one Vice President and two Presidents…

Dick Cheney served as the 46th Vice President of the United States (2001 – 2009) under President George W. Bush. Cheney is best known for his long career within the Republican party, but his $90 million net worth reveals lucrative roots in the private sector. Raised in Casper, Wyoming and educated at Yale and the University of Wyoming, Cheney first worked at the White House during the Nixon and Ford administrations. He later served six terms representing the state of Wyoming in the U.S. House of Representatives, followed by a stint as the Secretary of Defense under the George H.W. Bush administration.

From 1995 to 2000, Cheney stepped into the private sector, serving as CEO for the oilfield services company Halliburton—the source of most of his net worth. In July 2000, Cheney resigned from Halliburton with a reported $20 million retirement package to serve as Vice President under the second Bush administration. As such, Cheney was considered the most influential Vice President in White House history, as he actively and openly influenced White House policy, particularly surrounding foreign policy, environmental policy, and the treatment of prisoners of war. After the Bush administration, Cheney left public office; he maintains homes in Wyoming, Virginia, and the Eastern Shore of Maryland.

It was anticipated that Halliburton’s $2.5 billion “Restore Iraqi Oil” (RIO) contract would pay for itself as well as for reconstruction of the entire country. Plans called for more oil to be exported from Iraq’s northern oil fields than actually occurred. 

An American politician and businessman, Donald Henry Rumsfeld has a net worth of $15 million. Donald Rumsfeld obtained his net worth by being the 13th Secretary of Defense from 1975-1977 and White House Chief of Staff during the Ford Administration. Rumsfeld was born in Evanston, Illinois.

Source: http://www.celebritynetworth.com

 

PS2 A Decade of Denial and Deception

By Silver Shield, on September 11th, 2012

(Originally published 9/11/11.)

 “It is said that men go mad in herds, and only come to their senses slowly, and one by one.” -Charles MacKay

9/11 is the biggest event in our life time, and yet here we sit a decade later, and the average American has not put any logical thought into what happened that day. For the most part, Americans were driven by emotional, almost animalistic, herd mentality into multiple wars, loss of liberties and explosive generational debt.  We were driven by the fear of  Mushroom Clouds and Weapons of Mass Destruction that were only found in our minds.  When I look back at how much our world has changed over the past decade since 9/11, it is astounding to me how much death and debt could have been avoided if we just came face to face with reality.

In this article I am going to take a very different approach of explaining what happened that beautiful Tuesday in September.  Not only will I present evidence to you, I will place the proper political, social, historical, economic and psychological context.  It is only from there can people really come to terms and truly understand what happened that day.  One other thing I am going to insist of you, is that you question everything I show you.  If you can do that simple thing, you will be well on your way to a much bigger and freer world.

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PS3 Was an unused five year old prototype 737-800 the real 9/11 plane?

This report has been approved for posting by a veteran commercial airline pilot, with the following disclaimer:

James,

Great job with the photos. I scrolled back and forth between the 800 and the impact plane. I still think 300, or slight chance 400-500 (not very likely though) because of the relative proportion. The impact plane to me still looks too small for an 800. The 800 was stretched to carry up to 189 passengers and had a longer fuselage.

However, it ABSOLUTELY is a 737. Tell you what. Just link to my article (attached unchanged in case you lost it) and if it is an 800 you can have all the glory. I only pointed out the picture for the flap track fairings which are huge on all 737’s. It doesn’t really matter which model it is. It is NOT a 767 and your pictures show that superbly, better than what I linked to.

I just hope the main point doesn’t get lost in a red herring chase over which model 737 it is. The photos are secondary evidence. The engine in the street, confirmed by mechanics, is the hard evidence of what it was.

I don’t mind disagreeing with you on this issue and if it turns out you are correct, I will cheer you on. I just can’t see it yet. What the heck, as you implied in your intro, I’m a semi-senile retired fuddy duddy who doesn’t know what he’s looking at. Gosh, I’m 69, what do you expect?

Mike

My comment about the intro: you are still WITH IT!!! 69 is nothing these days!

I have to get this online in stages, so bear with me, I have a lot to do. His full report will appear in the guest writer’s section as soon as I manually retype the code to HTML.

The full report by Mike Phillips is now linked Here

Introduction

I had readers warn me not to post ANYTHING about 911, because it’s become a religion for many and I would lose readers. However, I think I have something here that will end the pod plane theory, and the computer graphics / no plane theory in one shot. The pod plane theory will be set aside because the plane used for the theory (the one that appeared in Popular Mechanics) is a fake. You can’t blame people for running with that, and the birth of that theory is the fault of Popular Mechanics.

The no plane theory is now going to have to factor in HOW on earth, or WHY on earth would a computer graphics team use the wrong airplane, when they could have used the right one.

This report is open to discussion, but I think it has been pretty well nailed.

Was an unused five year old prototype 737-800 the real 9/11 plane?

Click on the image below to enlarge it:

737-800

 

Comment: The plane was made of aluminum and could not break the side of the building.

Answer: The plane had an aluminum skin over a very strong sub structure. What structure is there that can survive an F5 tornado? The 737-800 can easily survive a 700 MPH dive, which will hit the plane with four times the stress of the worst F5 tornado. Jumbo jets are not weak.

Furthermore, the plane weighed 174,000 pounds and was going 300 MPH. Most wrecking balls weigh around 10,000 pounds and seldom go over 30 MPH. In a car accident, how much worse is 60 MPH than 30 MPH? Then, how much worse is 300 than 30? deceleration of mass will always exert a lot of force when it is that fast and that much. I don’t doubt for a minute the planes broke the beams on the front of the building, 174,000 pounds IS WHAT IT IS.

Comment: Several pilots have come out and said the planes were going too fast for specifications

Answer: Not this pilot. Since he knew it was a 737, he knew the apparent speed would be higher than reality, a LOT higher, and his own calculations pegged the speed at 300 mph (a quick guess, he said 250 knots). This is because all the speed calculations of less observant pilots factored in the length of a 767, which is twice the mass of a 737, so when calculating how long the plane took to travel it’s length and equating that to speed, their numbers were way off. 300 MPH looks VERY impressive only 800 feet or so from the ground. Add to this the fact that early on the plane looked like it was going a lot slower, and as the years progressed it got faster and faster, and video fakery is now in the equation. He calculated the speed on day one, before any of that happened.

When I did this report, all these questions were addressed and answered.

April 25 2012

The following was written by veteran commercial airline pilot Mike Phillips.

I am posting this without edits. The pictures he links are confusing, so if you need clarification, Use this reference

I was a Captain for a major airline and retired about twenty years ago. During my career, I flew in and out of New York and Washington thousands of times. When 9-11 happened, I felt like it happened on my turf so to speak. It was commercial airliners and places I was very familiar with, so I took a special interest in the subject.

For years I collected everything I could find about 9-11. After a decade of this, I think I’ve got the basics pretty well figured out; who did it, why and a good deal of how it was done. From my experience I could see through the airplane parts of the story and reject those which didn’t make sense to me, but which might to someone outside the business.

The trouble is we all have blind spots. As a former pilot I knew from day one that many of the airplane aspects of the official story were not credible. However, not being an expert in architecture I saw no reason why airplanes hitting the buildings couldn’t have brought them down.

Then the architects appeared and explained how these buildings were put together and specifically designed to withstand airplane impacts. The only way to bring down the buildings the way they were constructed was with massive explosives. If you follow me so far, and most people who have looked at 9-11 probably do, then you can see that the people who blew up the Trade Center had a problem which required a solution.

They couldn’t just blow up the buildings. Everyone would demand an investigation into who did it, who rigged the explosives and how. If you see this, then you understand that the airplanes were essential in order to provide a cover story for detonating the explosives. In addition, it had to be believable. New York is a city of about 9 million people. The airplanes had to be real, seen and photographed to buttress the story. It worked too. Even today most people still think that airplanes hitting the towers were what caused them to collapse.

The next problem was since the airplanes were essential to the story, how to insure that they actually hit the buildings. That absolutely had to happen before the explosives were detonated or the story would fall apart. They certainly couldn’t trust some semi-literate, technically unskilled Arabs with no flying skills to successfully take over four commercial flights armed only with putzy little box cutters and successfully complete the mission.

How they solved this is evident from the photographs and video. There is a photograph that shows what is supposedly Flight 175 from below just prior to impact with the building. To the average person, I’m sure it just looks like a jet airplane hitting the building, but if you know what to look for, the airplane is a 737-300, not a 767. The easiest way to tell is by the flap track fairings which are considerably different on the two aircraft.

Below is a picture of the 737 just prior to impact. It’s the second one down. Under that are four pictures. The first two are of a 767 and the second two of the 737 which hit the tower. Notice the flap track fairings. (see paragraph below for description) On the 737. they are relatively thick, but on the 767 they appear relatively thin. There are other differences, but they are more subtle.

I have shown this to people who didn’t understand what the flap track fairings were. To clarify: the wing flaps run back and down on geared tracks to allow the airplane to fly slowly when coming in for landing. They have to cover these tracks to make them aerodynamic. On the rear underside of the wing look for two parallel structures pointing in the same direction as the aircraft outboard of the engines. They are about one third and two thirds the way out to the wingtip. These are the fairings. Fat ones identify the 737, slender ones the 767.

http://612ua.0catch.com/1.html

In addition, in the video of the airplane hitting the tower, after impact you can see an object coming out the rear of the building circled in the first image in the link below. It is one of the engines and it landed near the intersection of Church and Murray street in lower Manhattan. Before the evidence could be removed, it was photographed in the street by Fox News and positively identified by airline mechanics as a CMF56, the primary engine of the Boeing 737. This is an engine much to small to power a 767.

In the images below notice that in one shot the camera crew got there while the engine was still smoking. In another you can see the concrete cracked where it landed. Also you can see the bent street sign it took out on the way down. At first I’m sure they wanted this televised. Airplanes were supposed to hit the buildings and this supported the story. However, soon after mechanics identified the engine as coming from a Boeing 737. Oops. It’s the small details that get them. The story disappeared from TV soon after.

http://www.rense.com/general64/wth.htm

Thus there are two pieces of evidence that an actual Boeing 737 hit the South Tower. Small problem: Flight 175 which left Boston was a Boeing 767. While it is highly unlikely that four airplanes could be taken over by people armed only with box cutters when those airplanes were manned by military trained pilots who know there is a crash axe in the cockpit and where to find it – crash axe trumps box cutters – it is absolutely impossible to use box cutters to turn a Boeing 767 into a Boeing 737 in midair. Sayonara, official story.

So, where did the 737’s come from and why? It turns out that just prior to 9-11 there were over 40 737’s parked in the desert which could be purchased cheaply. There was also an Israeli owned company that specialized in converting airplanes to remote control. The problem with this particular point is that I saw it, but I have lost the documentation over the years. In any case, there was no evidence that this company actually did the modifications. However, the modifications had to be made and an Israeli owned company could be trusted to do it and keep quiet. What we do know is that exactly what they needed to accomplish these modifications existed. Beyond that is speculation.

When you realize the absolute necessity of the airplanes hitting the buildings first, you can see what they did. They converted the 737’s to remote control and installed a camera facing out the cockpit window. The airplanes were absolutely empty. There were no people on board to chicken out at the last minute and foul things up. They were remotely flown into the buildings.

There is indirect evidence for the airplanes being remote controlled. It is very convincing to me as a pilot, but maybe not so much for a non-pilot. The World Trade Center buildings were approximately the width of a runway. If you watch airplanes landing at an airport, you will notice that no matter whether they are being flown by the most experienced captain or a brand new co-pilot, they never have to make a last minute 30 degree bank to land on the runway. With the parallax that comes from having two eyeballs, any slight drift off course is easily noticed and corrected by any pilot.

However, if you only have a camera with a single lens what you must do is point the airplane at the target. If there is a crosswind, the target will drift very slowly off center – until – until – you get very close and then it will appear to move off center very quickly. I had a friend and fellow pilot who in his time off raced remotely controlled airplanes. He explained a lot to me about the difficulty of flying a plane you weren’t actually in. That is obviously what happened and the remote operator must have realized in the last few seconds that he was going to miss the building entirely. Hence the massive left turn striking the building at a angle.

So, what about the real Flight 175? It turns out there were drills going on that day simulating aircraft hijackings. What airplanes do you suppose they used for those? According to airline records which were leaked, Flights 11 and 175 didn’t operate as normal paying flights that day. The captain on one of the flights was a reserve officer who worked at the Pentagon on the operation to simulate these drills. Perhaps not conclusive proof, but the pieces fit.

They’ve made a hack job on the internet of the American pilot, saying he deliberately flew the airplane into the Pentagon, etc. This is, of course, nonsense. Apparently he was still in the reserves. While there is some question about that, it would be normal. Lots of airline pilots retain their reserve status for the retirement benefits and many keep it for the opportunity to fly fun things like F-4’s again.

They were flying drills that day and had to use real airplanes for them. Airlines do cooperate with projects like that and would make flights available to train FAA personnel. Having a captain who had participated in the preparation of the drills would be ideal. Regardless of his reserve status, he did fly the plane. All they did, all four flights, was take off on what they assumed would be training flights for the controllers. They also would have had people acting as passengers and hijackers to help with the simulation for crew training.

There are areas of the country where radar coverage is very poor due to terrain and other factors. The flights were all routed over these areas and that is where the transponders were turned off. I figure this is where they swapped the remote controlled airplanes in a way that the FAA couldn’t see and sent the drill airplanes somewhere for “debriefing.” Poor guys. They had no idea that “debriefing” meant their elimination. They shut down all air traffic in the country for about a week after that except for authorized flights. There would have been no problem taking the drill aircraft afterwards and ditching them in the sea where no traces of them would ever be found.

This is my informed speculation. To me, the pieces fit, but if a better explanation for any of the details were presented, I’d sure consider it. Bear in mind I’m no genius, just an observer with a perspective that not everyone has.

There is more that could be said about Flight 77 (the Pentagon) and Flight 93. Here is a little of what I see for consideration. I currently think they were screw-ups and didn’t do all they were supposed to. Less is known about them since they weren’t televised live like the New York flights. All we got from the Pentagon was the aftermath and even less from Flight 93.

Flight 77 was ten minutes late leaving Dulles and about an hour late arriving at the Pentagon, assuming they wanted the attacks to be simultaneous. If the Pentagon had been hit at the same time as the Trade Center, they could have used it for an explanation of why the Air Force wasn’t scrambled – our communications were disrupted. As it is, they’ve had a hard time ever since explaining why they sat on the butts for an hour after the Trade Center was hit.

Then there’s the conversation reported by Panetta between Cheney and an aide. “The plane is ten miles out, do the orders still stand?” Of course they still stood. Cheney had his eye on the big picture. It didn’t matter that the plane was late. There were over 2 trillion dollars missing from the Pentagon and they needed to blow up the part of the building that housed the records. Mission accomplished.

As for a large commercial airplane hitting the building, I don’t see it. People like to say that it “vaporized.” I’d like to take them out on a flight line and let them look at the landing gear of a 757, or even a 737. They are massive and strong enough to absorb the impact of 200,00 lbs landing hard and repeatedly. Not all landings are smooth, not even mine, but don’t tell anyone I said that. The landing gear might have been a little scratched and bent, but it wouldn’t have vaporized. There are no records of them hauling any massive pieces out of the Pentagon of which I am aware.

That still leaves the problem of the airplane. Too many people saw it and many credible witnesses said that its flight path was not over the telephone poles that were downed. How an airplane could hit several massive metal telephone poles and not have its flight disrupted resulting in a crash mystifies me.

My current guess (and I emphasize guess here) is that they did a magician’s trick. They flew by the Pentagon at low altitude and detonated explosives in the building just as the airplane passed over. Practically anyone who saw this and the smoke rising in the air would “assume” that the airplane hit the Pentagon. All it had to do was stay low for a little while and then climb out unobserved in the confusion.

Interesting to note: there was a second explosion at the Pentagon about 20 minutes later. Perhaps some of the explosives didn’t go off the first time. If you look at a picture of the Pentagon taken immediately, not 20 minutes or more after the initial explosion, the damage is much less consistent with the impact of a large airplane. I’m not terribly comfortable with this explanation, but nothing else I’ve heard so far is better. Someone, a reader perhaps, might be able to help me out here. On this I would definitely consider any alternative, but it would have to make sense..

Flight 93 was even worse. It was delayed 41 minutes on the ground at Newark. I could have warned them about that. Newark is the stepchild of the New York airports. Ground delays are most common there. I figure it left too late to accomplish whatever they had planned for it and they shot it down. The question is, what did they shoot down, Flight 93 or the remote controlled aircraft they had planned to substitute for it? Actually, if it was the remote, they might have just remotely crashed it rather than shoot it down.

There were scattered reports of Flight 93 landing somewhere (Cleveland if memory serves) with the tail number and all and taxiing to a military hangar. That would fit the overall modus operandi. Then where the crash was supposed to have taken place, no wreckage was found. Some wreckage was later claimed to be seen at a lake several miles away. Again logical. If it was the remote plane, they wouldn’t want anyone examining the wreckage.

It appears to me they were ad-libbing with Flight 93. There are all the reports of cell phone calls when at that time cell phones didn’t work in the air. Even worse, on Flight 77 (the Barbara Olsen flight) the aircraft didn’t have the in-flight phones installed. A little while back, confronted with the absolute impossibility that they could have taken place, Ted Olson quietly admitted that no phone calls took place with his wife. He was high up in the political pecking order and it’s possible he had advance knowledge of what would transpire. I’ve always wondered if he didn’t perhaps arrange one of those “divorces” where he got to keep everything? That’s total speculation, of course, but we already know he’s a scumbag. Who would lie about his wife at a time like that?

Anyway, that’s the basics of what I know or speculate about the “How” of 9-11, I’ve still got questions, but since they rushed to destroy all the evidence as quickly as possible, it is unlikely that everything will ever be known. Obviously, they didn’t intend for us to know what they did, so we are left to work with the bits and pieces they missed.

Mike Phillips

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Note: View the source of this segment here: http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/guest_writers.html

 

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  2. J.a. says

    The investigation finding are placed in this area charges are applied to the complicity of the main stream media and the aggresive actions of law enforces shamefull behaviour their duty of care towards citizens have had a turn for the worse below international standards so now dont rely on the government to catch your fall we have something better than them justice is arriving soon.

  3. J.a says

    The investagation to this incident is about the complicity of the corperate western main stream media”s presented views to the public which is found to be in default propagander apposed to the truth of instagating warfare to serve as domination to civil liberties and the path to peace,There for a finding is complete consider the acts of war from 911 a deliberate aggresion to the democracy of free truth.

  4. Elijahovah says

    It would seem most probable that the truth would have a list of passenger names for every plane flight that crashed in the event. Where are these names. Does either side of argument even present it. Second, what is ignored is piggy-backing a crime. You know the criminal guilty of doing it so you commit a crime at the same time to blame on him. THIS is obvious because the FBI ignored continuous words telling them the date was THOTH 1 new year of the Coptic calendar. Coptic = Jewish Egyptian, Christian Egyptian, created 27-25bc by Augustus Octavian Caesar but attributed to an Era of 284 AD, and an Epoch of 5500bc. Totally unrelated because 5500bc Adam (Alexandria Era in Egypt) comes from 1900bc Hindu beleivng the fall of Ur III was year 3600am where they resided in India 1200 years until 700bc to construct this chronology. The 284AD new world (Diocletion Era, Era of Martyrs, Era of Christians) or year 6000 is from Josephus whose Adam 5716bc is Noah’s Flood of 3460bc (2256am) or 3060bc (2656am) debating Japanese Flood 3060bc (2256am) versus the cycle of 1440 years (3460-2020bc) confusing 40-day Flood with the 40-day seance of Noah’s death. (Actual death of Noah’s 40 days is 350 years after true Flood 2370bc which has a C-14 date of 20,000 years.) Finally the true source of 27-25bc calendar is derived from the dates in 747bc opposite Neo Babylon’s Noah (Flood) 2947-2945bc. Point is the chosen date is Arabic, Egyptian, anti-Christian, anti-Jew and against world stock and world trade. So to me it would seem all the conspiracy stories seem false because they piggy-back on a crime that they knew was planned but not knowing how to stop it decided to utilize it and be part of it. The owner and his buying it and insuring it, the government and their deficets, and their secrets in Pentagon, and building 7 which they say hid the liabilities of oil companies, all that is easily a piggy-back where people take advantage of a crime they hear is about to take place. It is like knowing thehurricane is coming and so which building youre going to loot when it does, and who gets blamed, while you run free and richer.

  5. wishbone says

    a bunch of arabs with boxcutters my bum.! it should be obvious to anyone with more than half a brain by now that 9/11 was carried out by the FBI and /or the CIA and MOSSAD, so that the US could start two illegal wars in iraq and afganistan, after all theres lots of profit to be made from war. the question should be; when are we going to put these mass-murdering, evil, zionist monsters on trial,? start the waterboarding with the “bush” family, “chaney”, “rummy”, then “miss rice”, they were all in on it.

  6. Brenda Brown says

    I think everyone would be interested in why the tower was brought down, but from reading the article, I don’t think there’s any question that further investigation into why and how is warranted. And if that means ‘they’ planned 9/11 too, so be it. Because someone shouts ‘conspiracy’, doesn’t mean they’re a conspiracy ‘nut’. I think you’d have to put blinders on in this day, to believe that conspiracies aren’t afoot in every country. There’s enough well written books on the Illuminate, and associated secret groups and societies, for anyone to know that major conspiracies are in the works, and world power is certainly a goal these guys would strive for. The more ‘advanced’ nations of this world didn’t ‘fall’ unexpectedly into the mess they’re in – somebody’s not saying everything they know.

    • wishbone says

      chris, you ask what the secret about building 7 is, well its not that much of a secret even though they tried to keep a lid on it. before 9/11 more than a trillion dollers had gone missing and all the documentation about that missing money was housed in building 7, and i believe building 7 was ment to be the third target to be hit by a (drone) airliner (flight 93) but something went wrong with the plan at that point, flight 93 was either shot down by a USAF jet, or taken over by the passengers (as we’ve been told, that i dont believe for one moment, theres too many inconsistencies in that story too) a small fire was started in building 7 by a bit of flying debris from one of the towers, so the order was given to “PULL” (demolition term) building 7 before the thermite charges wrapped around its steel girders started to pop out of sequence. face it, the US government and their MOSSAD buddies murdered those 3000 american people and all those people in iraq and afganistan and all those brave young american soldiers that died and got their limbs blown off in those wars for a LIE, the criminal mass murderers in the US goverment need to be in “gitmo” awaiting their trials.

  7. Doug Yurchey says

    Last year at this time I said my peace on the subject and a bit of a firestorm raged. Of course, it’s obvious people will blog here that there’s no conspiracy and 9/11 was not an inside job. This is to be expected and also boring. Kennedy gets killed by our government’s bosses and the world mourns. 9/11 is created by our government’s bosses and the world mourns. People, whether they are placed-agents or just naive, will not believe the truth…because the truth is too ugly to reveal and certainly is never broached over the media. Don’t criticize World-Mysteries for the liberal Conspiracy-stuff because WHERE ELSE ARE WE EVER GOING TO HEAR A DIFFERENT SIDE? Not TV; not TV documentaries; NOT 60 MINUTES!

    I’m more affected by the AFFECT; the ‘patriotic’ after-effect. After 9/11, about 1/3 of every car on the streets of LA had an American flag? This is your normal eye-for-an-eye reaction? Blood, vengeance?! How about studying what really happened behind the scenes? How about understanding that we’re not going to be told the truth over the media? How about realizing the real ones involved and not the ones THEY tell us were involved? That would be too much to ask for most, I know.

    I’m like Mr. Conspiracy now, but in 2001 I certainly was aware of the NWO and Secret Societies; had studied their evil for years – had interviewed Jordan Maxwell, etc. But, when that Tuesday happened (it’s always a Tuesday)…I didn’t first think conspiracy; NWO and secret societies…no, there was just pain and sorrow. It took a whole day! Then it dawned on me without the millions of bits of now KNOWN EVIDENCE. I called Jordan right after that and of course: he knew IMMEDIATELY! WE did it – not the good people in the 99%. (Just watch who you’re calling ‘we’). The 1% at the top of the pyramid; the super-rich and powerful…who could do anything in front of your eyes then mold you with their lies over the media. They are skillful magicians.

    AND THEY’RE GOING TO DO IT AGAIN…very soon. Hope I am wrong. Instead of being fearful and angry and running off to whatever war they provide Mr. Robot Soldier…how about instead realize who and what our leaders actually are? If you only knew the guilty parties and what they’ve done, you’d stop paying them!

    Do you know what today is? Look on your damn calendar on the wall that is even controlled by THEM and not US. It’s PATRIOT DAY!! Today’s a holiday. 9/11 has become Patriot Day. While we’re brought to tears with memorials and tributes over the TV and everywhere you look…

    …there are those secret Rothschilds and other bankers, you know, that finance and present our wars, Olympics, etc…that are CELEBRATING TODAY. ‘Annuit Coeptis’ – their enterprise has succeeded! And they’re popping champagne today because they rule the world and their grip is even tighter around our throats…

    Question everything they tell us…

    • says

      You may have a point Doug, but then again you may not. I have friends in the Secret Service that I grew up with and trust to no end since we saved each other/s in our youth. Brothers do no lie. Looks like you are wrong.

      • j.apoyan says

        So why is the main stream corperate media stalking citizens with their broadcasting technology manipulating reality and sending false propagander through the air ways today what Fm station hides when they should be fought against,all patriots take heed document the aggresive whimps.

        • j.a. says

          Main stream media documents complicit in terrorism government crime corporate thieves military illegal wars against the citizen nation.

          • J.a. says

            Terrorism usa military government international allert war criminals still in office if it was good enough for the nazi trial it is good enough for guess who president.

          • J.a says

            bush howard gillard.The australian federal police are aware,International security request on her majesty service they are the british crown, is a illegal regime.

  8. says

    On 911, I was working at the Express-News and saw this tragedy through the eyes of the media. My colleagues were no different from the average citizen/s with shrieks and screams coming from reporters and editorialists alike. We were reduced to abject sorrow. In the Newsrooms the large screens were filled with the live feeds of the horror we all came to know. A few weeks later Hearst let about 500 employes go due to the uncertainty of the times. Thousands of other companies let some portions of their employes go at the same time. We lost 3,000 citizens and countless more in lessor situations. America was down, but not out. We came back.

    America should have learned from this but no…we elected one who can destroy us from within four years ago. The Media has become our messenger and 70% of our media is Liberal and spouts Socialism, Marxism and Progressivism. These media seek to distort our minds with the leveraging of their own psychological propaganda built on INFORMAL FALLACIES and Non-sequiturs. One would think we were better informed by the Third Rail, but no. Many of us just hear the bits and pieces of a message and believe without in-depth searching and detecting the sources of an issuing position. We buy into secondhand lies for effect. As a former university administrator and instructor, I know how easy it is to sell a liberal viewpoint. It is done daily at the expense of our citizens. Complex Ignorance runs wild in the neighborhood. The uninformed roam our streets still spouting the same jargon as our enemies. Some are our own friends and relatives are the practitioners of disinformation. We are indeed a nation of fools.

  9. Raven Draven says

    Michael D. Howard you might want to get your facts straight. Building 7 was a controlled demolition. It was admitted on “911/Moving Forward” on PBS.

    They stated they had to “pull it”, a common demolition term used to mean to take a building down. Now consider this, controlled demolitions take months of planning, its not something someone can just rig up in a few mins or hours. This is pure fact not speculation. The reason for the conspiracy, is, if building 7 was admittedly taken down that day because they felt they needed to “pull it”, then that means it was planned months in advance before 911. If they planned a demolition of one building why not the main towers themselves.

    Open your eyes….

    • Michael D. Howard says

      The proof for that is to listen to the transmissions of fire department assignments and the written reports. That is what I based my conclusions on you can find some of them and links to others on http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm; feel free to review the fire department radio transmissions and videos of what Tower 7 looked like and it’s condition clearly deteriorated structural condition. That’s 20 floors compromised and substantial damage at its base foundation. Also refer to this quote from one of the fire fighting personnel below:

      …They told us to get out of there because they were worried about 7 World Trade Center, which is right behind it, coming down. We were up on the upper floors of the Verizon building looking at it. You could just see the whole bottom corner of the building was gone. We could look right out over to where the Trade Centers were because we were that high up. Looking over the smaller buildings. I just remember it was tremendous, tremendous fires going on. Finally they pulled us out. They said all right, get out of that building because that 7, they were really worried about. They pulled us out of there and then they regrouped everybody on Vesey Street, between the water and West Street. They put everybody back in there. Finally it did come down. From there – this is much later on in the day, because every day we were so worried about that building we didn’t really want to get people close. They were trying to limit the amount of people that were in there. Finally it did come down.” – Richard Banaciski

      Silverstein’s Quote:
      “I remember getting a call from the Fire Department commander, telling me they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, you know, ‘We’ve had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is just pull it.’ And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse.”

      -Fact which is undisputed by either side, he was talking to the fire commander
      -Fact which is undisputed by either side, both are not in the demolition business
      Silverstein’s spokesperson, Mr. McQuillan, later clarified:

      “In the afternoon of September 11, Mr. Silverstein spoke to the Fire Department Commander on site at Seven World Trade Center. The Commander told Mr. Silverstein that there were several firefighters in the building working to contain the fires. Mr. Silverstein expressed his view that the most important thing was to protect the safety of those firefighters, including, if necessary, to have them withdraw from the building.”

      I had occasions some time ago to see the on PBS the broadcast of footage from rescues within the Verizon building and that of the Radisson Hotel. I can remember how people were being ordered out because of the damage that could be seen on Tower 7 and the fear of its imminent collapse and the damage that might cause to other buildings.

      There many fire department radio transmissions plus videos concerning Tower 7’s massive fire and its potential for collapse. Here is my question why do people focus on one out of context quote from Silverman. Clearly if you review his complete statement within the context of what he was saying to the fire department in their conversations it was about the entire area being compromised and he did not want any more firefighters to die. Hence pull Tower 7 and the surrounding buildings.

  10. Michael D. Howard says

    Let’s end the conspiracy talk on the World Vision Web site which has always been good on presenting the facts. There was no controlled demolition of building 7. What we really need is a follow up article on the Sheeple and how people are brainwashed, away from sound logic, against the Truth. How do I know this regarding 911 ? Because of 3 things:

    1. I saw video and PBS documentaries showing extensive damage to the substructure of building 7. It is clear from those videos & photos that the collapse of building 7 would be eminent.
    2. I have listened to and read reports of fire department communications regarding firefighting efforts at building 7 and rescue efforts at adjacent building with a clear view of building 7. All that communications clearly reflects and states that Tower 7 is in danger of possible collapse as the result of structural damage.
    3. Also review the following site: http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm has some of the best Tower 7 photos and documentation showing what happened to the building & supporting photos and fire department transmissions regarding the building.

    Clear documentary footage that I last saw on the Military Channel (cable TV) shows bulges in the outer core (clear metal fatigue prior to the World Tower collapse. The collapse where not from any controlled demo regardless of what all those so called experts say.

    This brings to another point there is an activity movement to subvert America’s moral character and constitutional government. One of the methodologies the People’s reliance on truth and reasoning and their abilities to judge and make decisions based on information they receive. Breaking confidence is designed to induce significant stress in the bodies systems to cause it to dysfunction and put it and humanity in to disarray.

    Please review the book 1984 and the character Emmanuel Goldstein whose job it was to tell people what they wanted to hear and what they thought would be truth, sometimes it was. But like Ceylon Replicas from the last Battle Start Galactica series there statements are only designed to lead you into a lie and then defeat followed by captivity. The perfect 5th Column.

    Clear and convincing documentation and witness accounts show that a air plane hit the Pentagon on 911 not a missile. I knew the big lie from Alex Jones and crew when they said they could not find anyone who saw a plane hit the Pentagon this despite dozens of eye witnesses. They next ploy was to say the government was hiding video proof of what hit the Pentagon was a missile not a plan. Another big lie. We know the object that hit the Pentagon was flying at a rate of speed, Over 320 Knots, that could not be captured by the video camera Jones speaks about because of the framing speed of the camera was to slow.

    Whether 911 was an inside job is another question. To me they prayed and may have done blood sacrifices before hand who knows. Bin Laden began the planning in the Philippians years before the actual event. His family friends of the Saudi’s who ran the operation (many of the planners met with sudden death after the event over a period of time) did so with well trained pilots. This at an American covert training air base.

    My explanation is simple. The FBI watched and document what was going on. In intelligence work one hand back then did not know what the other was doing. If you want to do anything do it in plain sight. FBI most likely assumed since they were on a government sanctioned facility they would just watch them and see what develops. The pilots used as we now all know flight simulators.

    My job as a licensed private investigator with years of experience in energetic explosives eats experts for lunch. And yes like many others I knew, from studying related issues, 3 weeks prior to 911 that the World Trade Tower was coming down. Like the students at UCLA who rightly guessed that Osama Bin Laden was most likely in a certain region in Pakistan you can read the tea leaves (news articles and trends) and figure things out. It does not take a Psychic or Conspiracy theorist to figure things out.

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