Ayn Rand was Wrong!

July 26, 2013

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Ayn Rand was Wrong!

by Doug Yurchey

     Someone should have shown this anti-Socialist and super-Capitalist an episode of Star Trek! 

     Ayn Rand (1905-1982) was a Russian novelist, best known for ‘The Fountainhead’ (1943) and ‘Atlas Shrugged’ (1957).  She developed a philosophy called ‘Objectivism’ and had been interviewed by the likes of Mike Wallace, Johnny Carson and Phil Donahue.  Considered one of the elite (extreme right-wing) intellectuals, her books continue to sell and influence millions.  In this totally-unknown writer’s opinion, such a fact is a crying shame.

     My recent interest in Ms. Rand originated from looking up a film (and book) that I knew nothing about called ‘Atlas Shrugged.’  Always curious of film sci-fi and future projections, I had to discover more about it.  With the help of YouTube and Wikipedia (sorry) had a crash course on who this woman was and what the heck was she saying?  I was fascinated.  Then, when I learned more about her…I wanted to puke.

 

     To become famous for promoting self-serving selfishness and Super-Capitalism is appalling.  One can understand how she felt the way that she did coming from Russia where the State confiscated her father’s business after the Bolshevik Revolution.  We can understand why Ayn Rand was embraced by New York; publishers; the rich and the far right.  Here was a Russian talent that had turned her back on Socialism; was anti-Collective and admired America’s top industrialists.  But, to promote a philosophy of no Unemployment Compensation; no Welfare; no Food Stamps; no giving; no helping; no assistance programs whatsoever…is cruel and heartless.

     In Rand’s world, the wealthy never help the needy.  Charity does not exist.  I guess we have to harden our hearts; avert our eyes and pretend that many millions of suffering people will just go away.  To her…if you provided a successful business; employed many and had a fortune…then, you certainly deserve to reap the rewards.  (Who can argue?)  What if you were not so successful in life like most of us?  Then, to her, you don’t really count or matter at all.  It is no wonder the Nixons, Barry Goldwaters, Dick Cheneys, Glenn Becks and Rush Limbaughs of the world loved her.

     In the documentary ‘Seeing Red,’ we learn a secret barely whispered among Americans or known.  You know our decent working conditions; like fair hours/fair pay, time-and-a-half, health benefits, paid-vacations, etc. that we take for granted today?  SOCIALISTS (Pre-Commies) who organized in America during the Depression Era were responsible for first UNIONIZING and insisting upon these decent conditions.  We owe them.  In rags, during deplorable times of the Depression (that the rich caused), Socialists stood on soapboxes and yelled to the wealthy, ‘FEED THESE PEOPLE!’ 

     Ayn Rand, Russian who became an American citizen, would tell the poor, ‘you’re out of luck; you’re not getting a nickel.’

     What fascinates me is comparing ‘1984’ to ‘Atlas Shrugged.’  There are at least three film versions of 1984.  The main character of Winston Smith has been played by John Hurt, Peter Cushing (‘Lord Tarkin’) and Edmond O’Brien.  In the story, this is what happens when the Rich or the State (Big Brother) is out of control and has all the power.  The masses have no freedom and are helpless victims to the totalitarian State.  The world is divided to three nations forced into continuous and needless wars by Big Brother.  Orwell had the secret fascists bombing their own subjects then lying by reporting they were enemy attacks.  The People horribly suffered at the hands of the Rich and Powerful.  Sound familiar?

     In ‘Atlas Shrugged’…it is the exact, 180-degree opposite!  It is the Rich and Powerful that are (boo hoo) forced to suffer in the future if THE PEOPLE have all the power.  Oh NO, the State is ‘the Collective’ that looks out for the sick and elderly and cleans the streets and takes out the trash, etc.  The Rich and their Big Business deals cannot contribute to any of that or pay a penny in taxes!  The State will become an out of control Welfare State and that will be the ruin of humanity.  Kings of Capitalism have much to fear from all those little people with their hands out. 

     In the 1960s…we experienced pride, joy and had good feelings when you heard the phrase ‘Power to the People!’  It meant something real.  In Rand’s view, the motto would be, ‘Power to the Rich’ or today’s top financial 1%.  Certainly, nothing should go to where it was really needed in the bottom 99%.  To her, the world was best run by super-rich moguls of industry that are only motivated by their own self-interests.  WAS SHE NUTS?  What a propaganda tool for the Rich!  Like the Powerful have not screwed up the planet or are incapable of it?  Billions of people are not the problem, Ayn!  The problem (Newsflash) is how the masses are treated by the few Overlords that absolutely believe we are their property. 

     TECHNOLOGY SHOULD BE SHARED…NOT SOLD!  And, ‘they’ will not do it.  That’s how it can all work.  Technology given away; suppressed technology utilized and no longer hidden from the surface people who desperately need it!  If suppressed tech was utilized now, humanity could quantum leap overnight!

     The nerve of Ayn Rand taking her Anti-Social, Anti-Democracy and Super-Capitalism ideology into FICTION…and creating a mirror/reverse 1984!  (Keep in mind Rush Limbaugh loves her).  This woman is considered a futurist?  BULL.  Here’s the reason she’s a ‘fatalist’ instead…Star Trek, Star Trek, Star Trek. 

     Before my critics condemn me for playing a fictional, televised series-card; try to understand a real, good and positive CASHLESS society.  Try!  Yes, it’s an ideal (as I have been recently reminded) as long as men strive to control other men; such ideals sound like fantasy.

     World-Mysteries viewers should be well aware of impossible structures of stone EMPIRES; many ruins from the distant past are far greater than what can be achieved by today’s ‘modern’ technology.  Egypt, Inca, Toltec and even Atlantis were REAL advanced-human civilizations…

and the fascists that rule Earth today would have you believe KINGS or Pharaohs of one type or another always ruled and always had dominion over the masses.  That’s a crock.  Atlantis was EDEN.  Atlantis was a Paradise on Earth for 50,000 years according to my research and inside information.  As I have said a few times on radio, ‘Edgar Cayce would agree with me.’

    Before you laugh at the Star Trek reference, consider your real history physically demonstrated in STONE (the masons think they understand).  Yes, Paradises Fell… but there WAS Utopia; there was Heaven on Earth.  They don’t want you to know you once possessed power.  Guess what?  That perfection lasted far, far longer than any reign of any empire of Kings and Queens.  Long ago, there were NO GOVERNMENTS or NATIONS.  There was only the positive usage of MAXIMUM TECHNOLOGY and KNOWLEDGE freely given to everyone; uniting the planet in a way Mr. Tesla would be very proud.

     So, NO…I don’t like Ayn Rand very much.  She was against the Vietnam War.  How could that be?  Was she so far right, she was left; trying to be popular for the times?  Libertarians loved her because she was against Taxes.  She was against ‘faith’ and the Church; why not against Big Business which is government?   The novelist underwent surgery for lung cancer in 1974 after ‘decades of heavy smoking.’  She signed up for Social Security and Medicare, which is terribly hypocritical when you consider her whole philosophy on life. 

     As I wrote in the beginning, maybe if she saw a Star Trek episode…maybe, just maybe…she could understand that in the far future, we won’t be the Ultimate YUPPY.  The acquisition of money, wealth and power will not be our prime function in life.  We’ll learn; progress over time; recycle; really evolve into an enlightened Human using more of our brain’s potential.  We’ll be the Ultimate HIPPIE!  The ‘Federation’ was a high-tech Collective…and, possibly, so was real world Egypt and Atlantis.  Peace is in our blood and at our core, not war.    

     It could all work, together.  GIVING isn’t a horrible crime.  I’m Italian; if we had extra food, we gave it away; everyone ate.  If you have extra; why not GIVE?  One good turn deserves another.  Why not pay-it-forward?

     If Ayn Rand came upon a car crash, would she stop and help?  She spoke of never ‘self-sacrificing’ for another person or group, ever.  In other words, her philosophy was a totally selfish and self-centered attitude.  I know others with the same traits.  They are called ‘babies.’ (If she wasn’t the Devil, was she a vampire?)   And this is a person we revere, praise and consider an intellectual?

 PART 2

     Good, take on Rand, thanks for sharing…Ralph (Ring).

In a message dated 7/22/2013 2:20:04 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes:  I KEEP SPITTIN’ THEM OUT!  This I sent to Mark Cuban and Barbara from Shark Tank – for all the good it will do…                       – Doug

     After writing the above article, I was motivated to discover more of this LIGHTNING ROD of a person called Ayn Rand and also clarify my positions on Communism; Orwell’s ‘1984’ as well as a reemphasis on the DANGEROUS MESSAGE of ‘Atlas Shrugged.’  Not in what the book and films portend for our future, but the very dark agenda of leaving it up to the Rich to rule the world.

     I studied the subject a number of curious ways.  I viewed YouTubes of George Carlin’s later comedy routines.  You will Learn and Laugh.  He speaks of the folly of politicians (Church) and entire political system; only there to present an ILLUSION of Freedom; an illusion of choice.  ‘You have none!’

     When I interviewed Jordan Maxwell over dinner, he spoke in great admiration of George Carlin; that he was a master of WORDS.  Anyone studying both men will see a link between them with the origins, usage and power of words.

     I studied the subject by viewing a long, detailed, biographical film on the life of George Orwell.  Also reviewed were both, old films of ‘1984’ starring Peter Cushing and the other (American release) starring Edmond O’Brien as Winston Smith.  Slight differences in the two: American version did not mention it could be Big Brother attacking its own subjects and was more of a love story.

     Orwell clearly wrote of the disastrous future of COMMUNISM gone amok with all the power while the masses had none.  Grey, colorless uniforms; the Inner and Outer PARTY; no choices in products, actions, words or thoughts were obvious reflections of growing concerns of ‘Red’ Communism.  Was Big Brother Mother Russia as ’84 was written right after WW2?  Yet, keep in mind that Soviet Socialists as well as other ‘freedom-fighters’ were also anti-fascist and fought alongside U.S. GIs during WW2 against Hitler and fascism. 

     ‘1984’ was also anti-Fascist…anti-any group forcing its ways upon helpless people, ruthlessly.  Orwell’s future was a ‘boot smashing a face, forever.’  Socialists were anti-fascist; they simply believed in a COLLECTIVE rather than a Capitalistic form of government.

     I AM NOT A COMMIE!  Communism is NOT the answer if we have a low standard of living; no choices; few freedoms; told what to do or think.  Such old-fashioned, archaic notions are not what I refer to or the motivation behind these words.  I speak of a VERY HIGH STANDARD OF LIVING with ultimate freedoms; ultimate vehicles and maximum power sources; super selections in products; ultimate technology freely applied for the common good and benefit of all.  People, everyone, having everything!  That idealistic concept is NOT CAPITALISM!  I am pro-Collective operating the right, decent and humane way for the Good of All.

     Capitalism bleeds the masses.  The masses are only consumers to make the Rich richer.  We should be enlightened enough by now to realize the 1% on top only care of their self-interests and certainly not the less fortunate 99%.   

     THE TRUTH IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF AYN RAND’S PREDICTION AND FEARS HAS COME TRUE!  1984 HAS COME TRUE, NOT ATLAS SHRUGGED!  To her, World Democrats (collectivists) sharing technology; new energies; new power sources; simply GIVING KNOWLEDGE and POWER AWAY in a Global Collective will ruin humanity.  NO; they will ruin Monopolies of the Super Rich and their dark plans of power in only the hands of a few mad, soulless, bloodless, compassionless Republicans of the State.

     No matter how you slice it; Rand was a contradiction and clearly supported FASCISM in the form of the few, elite, Star Chamber at the pinnacle of the Social Pyramid DICTATING the fate for the rest of humanity.  When did that ever work?  Rivers are brown; trees are gone and our air is unsafe because of ‘caring’ Billionaire industrialists.

     See the YouTube of the brilliant Ralph Nader and what he thought of Ayn Rand.  He was horrified and could not read ‘Atlas…’ without gagging.  And, ‘Atlas…’ is one of the biggest selling books of all time!  Even Conservative William F. Buckley clashed with Rand (I guess being far too liberal for her likes).

     At one point in a George Carlin clip, he was asked, ‘how could it all work?’  He said ‘Technology wasn’t the answer, either’ since that has always been perverted or corrupted.  Ah, but Technology used wisely – given, not sold – IS THE ANSWER!  Such an answer returns to my original point of the ideas in ‘Star Trek’ or real-world Egypt and Atlantis.  The answer is Knowledge and Power in the hands of the COMPASSIONATE…applied for everyone in a Tesla or Buckminster Fuller Tomorrow of ‘Spaceship Earth’ where we are all united as ONE people with power. 

     ‘Atlas Shrugged’ is propaganda from the Rich in the same way as 1984’s ‘Freedom is Slavery,’ ‘Knowledge is Ignorance’ and ‘Strength is Weakness.’

PART 3

      I’ve been asked, ‘how can I possibly believe in Power that does not corrupt?’  In other words, how could a truly Free Society exist where everyone has everything; where we are Supermen and Superwomen in a mega-metropolis and UTOPIA was not a dream, but a technical reality?  How could it really be?

Future

     This will sound strange:  I see the parallel course in Human History; the road not taken; that does not exist…and it sounds like Fantasy.  The almost utopian high-tech ideal I speak of…could have been a reality NOW!  And, believe it or not, could have been a reality for human society 100 years ago!

     If Nikola Tesla would have been successful with this 187-foot New York (‘Wardenclyffe’) power-tower called the ‘Magnifying Transmitter, built between 1900 and 1905…then, by 1913, human society would have been transformed into that which resembled Krypton Society!  There would have been no World Wars, Crash, Great Depression or suffering multitudes of people.

     Tesla had already changed the world with RADIO.  Who could believe, at the time, a box could vocalize speakers or music from many miles away?  Tesla, true inventor of the A.C. and Television and so many other innovations, planned for families to be riding in the comfort of disk-shaped vehicles 100 years ago!  All the Electro-Magnetic energy we needed could be freely drawn out of the Earth and distributed the proper way. 

     Why were we cheated out of being on the Road to Utopia?  (Inside info from Arthur Matthews, his ‘secret son,’ that) Tesla himself dismantled the Power Tower because he knew it would be misused by those men soon to create the First World War!  Nikola realized it was the wrong time for the ‘Principle of Paradise.’  Such POWER could not possibly exist during the rule of war-mongering, fascist bankers.  Those in control at the time and today would only seize more control and strip the masses of numerous ‘quantum leap’ benefits in technology.  Knowledge has been suppressed then and now. 

     I see the road not taken.  I see that it parallels the ancient past of high-tech Egyptians, Incas and Atlanteans when Eden was not an idealistic dream…but a reality.  YES; perfection ended and there was Paradise Lost…but ONLY because power-mad fascists, Rand’s hero-saviors, had their way…took control over the People…and the masses have been struggling ever since.

     Hail Atlantis!  There will be a time in the far future when it can work in a world without War.  The ‘meek’ with their small hands on large Technologies will inherit the Earth.  Power does not necessarily, every time, corrupt.  Such utopian realities will happen again because they once happened long ago.  We have that potential.  Everything returns…even peace and love.    

PS. Ayn Rand was the opposite of Robin Hood.  This all started when I first heard Ms. Rand say, ‘we are moving toward Socialism and, under Socialism…everyone will enslave everyone.’  No, madam, only those Money-Men from the Dark Side you have supported all your life will ENSLAVE the masses!  There actually exists positive life in the universe that might not choose oppression upon the people.   

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PS John Todd

John Todd, who claims to be a former member of one of the inner circles of the Illuminati, explains.

The Illuminati is Real.
An Illuminati Defector, Explains What They Are and What They Plan on Doing

The Conspiracy for world takeover is as old as man himself. The Illuminati, in recent history, has twice tried to control the world — in Napoleon’s day and during World War I. Only about 5,000 people in the entire world know the true purpose of the Illuminati and its conspiracy to rule the earth.

Their plan was written down in code, as a fictional novel, in 1957. In the mid-1950?s Philippe Rothschild ordered one of his mistresses, Ayn Rand, an established authoress and philosopher, to undertake the writing of this code to the witches of the world. This novel, Atlas Shrugged, was never intended to be a best seller, although it turned out to be one.  

The main characters of Atlas Shrugged are code names for individuals or companies. The code is as follows:

  • Dagny Taggart — Ayn Rand
  • Dagny’s brother — The combined Railroad System
  • Ellis Wyatt — David Rockefeller
  • Hank Rearden — U.S. Steel, Bethlehem Steel
  • Francisco D’Anconia — Combined Copper Mines
  • Galt, D’Anconia, and the Pirate –Rothschild Tribunal

The Tribunal in the book went around convincing certain major corporation presidents of their philosophy and plan, getting them to bankrupt their own businesses. The owners of these companies would then vanish and leave with either Galt or D’Anconia to a retreat area in the Colorado mountain regions. Colorado” is the code name for the “Bermuda Triangle”, the place where the key figures of the Illuminati will be when the world crashes.

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Joe May 1, 2014 at 9:30 am

You are misinterpreting and misrepresenting her philosophies. She consistently refers to “Individual Rights” as inherant and “Property Rights” as the way to ensure these rights. How can you argue with the idea of what’s mine is mine? You can’t have my thoughts, why do you think you can take things I produce or money I earn? Ayn Rand did not have an issue with charity, she had an issue with forced charity. I partake in debates like this, but I have never stood up to our government for taking what I earn and probably never will. I am a slave to an abusive government. I see tons of fraud, abuse and waste in government programs and it’s our money they are using. Think of it in simple terms. The government decides that a perfectly functional roadway could be prettier, so they take some more of the people’s wages to plant some trees or flowers. But I didn’t want those flowers. You basically came in to my home, took $5 out of my wallet and said I have no choice. What if you were at work and a boss said we bought a $100 gift for this employee (that you can’t stand) and you must contribute $10 and he takes it from your wallet?

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jared January 21, 2014 at 7:06 pm

Ayn Rand was indeed a lunatic, a shill storyteller, a crappy author, a poor philosophizing, and she ignored human tendencies, human empathy, and much more. She was, to be frank, ignorance, narcissistic, and blind.

But this article was bullshit. Free technology? Atlantis? Tesla? The Illuminati? First off, if you had any understanding of the great cultures of the past, like the Egyptians in the Incans that you referenced, you would know that they were barely enlightenment, and we could do what they did but we would need a much different, and it would not be fair in the least. Second, your conspiracy theory prattle comes off more as the drunken ramblings of a sociopath then of a well learned person.

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Luther Timmins August 10, 2013 at 9:16 pm

Tray Caladan . . . I didn’t like him less when he was puke.

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Tray Caladan August 7, 2013 at 8:27 pm
Tray Caladan August 5, 2013 at 7:11 pm

Chaz – I can’t even respond to your programmed blindness – you’re against any son-of-a-bitch who wants to TAKE from you what you and your family have earned?? NO ONE – NOT ME – is talking about that…that’s your delusion/WRONG notion; MISUNDERSTANDING. I am NOT speaking of forced communism who will TAKE your business and riches you earned. what BRAINWASHING! stop! You are wrong and have no point if that is your misguided point! I’m speaking of suppressed tech and abundance of more Energy than we could ever use! – NOT A DREAM – and we can’t have it – there’s no plan for revolution…WE LOST! THEY WON! The little guy has no power. THEY, not us, own the media and courts and police and military and nukes. We only have the numbers and we are powerless. I’m just lookin’ ahead, Buddy – 1000 years in the future and 15,000 years ago and life on other planets. Taking from YOU! Absurd! YOU and people like you are the biggest roadblocks to Utopia. It’s Giving you back Saucer vimana-technology – EM power right out of every sq. inch of ground!! Tell Tesla that Transporters and Replicators are fantasy and he’d laugh in your face! It will only change when Archie Bunkers like yourself become extinct and a brave new world like ‘Wings Over the World’ in Things to Come finally come in and clean-up the mess from despot dictators and old regimes. That’s why I pray for help from Above. Someone with a Bigger Gun and root out the power-mad fascists. But you don’t believe in POSITIVE Power ‘wise elders’ – Good Power – technology used the right way – one day, your great, great grandchildren will see that Star Trek is a reality, a way of life and not just an old TV show. My point is Rand’s Way is the WRONG philosophy on Life; ball and chain; Man’s Labor; everything Tesla tech could nullify in 1 stroke – her way is only supported by poverty, slavery; hunger; class system, WARS and oppression to the masses by the EVIL RICH war-monger Bankers! Once the Meek truly Inherit the world – maybe after your blessed Industrialists NUKE IT…maybe THEN…new and proper Free Energy devices will be utilized for all and NOT SOLD! How un-Rand-like! Because old ways you bow to have no place in the FUTURE as they did before 15,000 years ago. I don’t want the nuking; I want the Future Now – we first have to believe it and know it’s in our blood; technical perfection, peace and love, ever hear of it? War is foreign to our true nature. You would disagree. How sad you are, Archie. I’m not the problem – and you protest too much. You being paid? Don’t answer. We’ve heard FAR TOO MUCH FROM YOUR KIND – IT’S SPEWED EVERY TIME WE TURN ON A BLOODY TV!
When you see Elysium – I’ll bet in that perfect society orbiting the HELL of Earth (in the proposed future) you don’t have to PAY. I’m just guessing the super, perfect healthcare and saucer travel THEY have is free…because this group (1%) of fascist have separated from Earth and are doing things the right way with Free Energy. I am Prometheus and I want to steal the technological fire and Knowledge of the Gods and GIVE IT TO THE PEOPLE. Not going to happen – the meek have no power…yet.

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Charles Marcello August 5, 2013 at 9:06 pm

Again, I didn’t bring Ayn Rand into this, nor was I the one who said she was wrong… you did! Not to mention you created a topic and then down in the comments section you are trying to change it… how dare you say that you can’t respond to my programmed blindness, that is pure nonsense… because out of the both of us, I’m the only one sticking with the premiss you created by creating this blog… Ayn Rand was not wrong, which means you Sir have never been right not even once inside your own blog. Because the truth is austerity measures, FORCED seizures of peoples personal wealth and private property, are happening all over Europe and South America because of worthless takers. That is happening now. While here in the United States instead of calling it austerity, we are referring to it as Quantitative Easing… which means at some point in our future someone is coming to take what each of us has right now because of even more lazy worthless takers… Just as Ayn Rand said they would! Which is why people who are paying attention are as concerned as many of us are. Not because we want violence, rather because we know its coming, unless the world decides to forgive all debts. Because as our history shows, those who are willing and able to kill the most will be the only ones creating the direction our world must follow. That is our reality, and no amount of white and black text is going to change that. So in an attempt to give you a chance, I have asked you more than once to explain how would you go about creating this world you speak of. It won’t just shazam and happen, and it will never happen just because you say it will. You and people who believe like you must do all the HARDWORK that is required to make the world you are talking about a reality… so how would you go about creating that world? And then to get back on topic, I turn around by reminding you Ayn Rand was not wrong she nailed our reality and how it would reach the point we are at now. She did, and I keep asking how you could possibly disagree with that simple fact? And so far your answer has been to describe a world that does not exist and call people names… with the bonus of you going guano crazy by threatening everyone at World-Mysteries.Com with leaving. Which leaves me with only one answer, you know damn well Ayn Rand nailed our reality, so to hide from your mistake you talk about a fake reality that is completely disconnected to the reality of our present situation. Because lord knows if l lived in Greece I would know the cheese has slid off your cracker because you just don’t know what the hell it is you’re talking about. Yet I keep trying to be kind by not being nearly as rude as you are, even though you keep making that harder to do, by asking you how do you create the world of which you speak. But at least you are being consistent by refusing to defend your blog while talking about a world that does not exist… as if that somehow argues in favor of your position that Ayn Rand was wrong. Yet you don’t stop there, oh hell no, you must be even more absurd by claiming I’m the one who is brainwashed, when obviously this blog you’ve created has made you brain dead! I just don’t know if its worth even attempting to have a rational conversation with you anymore.

–Charles Marcello

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Luther Timmins August 10, 2013 at 9:10 pm

Ayn Rand wrote fiction.

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Tray Caladan August 5, 2013 at 1:24 pm

JASON! Thank you so much for getting it! All I asked for was 1 person to get it under the negative barrage from Children of Yuppy (lost in their Matrix world) devoid of imagination. I recently argued with an ‘old’ friend who also did not get it. NOT saying our world today is Utopia…but that Utopia is scientifically possible, not a dream [LONG overdue] and IS the answer; IS achievable thru Super-Technology…but we’re not allowed to have the tech by fascists who pull the strings of world leaders today – the small era you guys are talking about of wars/corruption/kings/class-system/MONEY is RECENT history…and very Temporary. You’re talking about the last 12-15 thousand years…that’s NOTHING! What of 50,000 years before that where Eden or Paradise WAS ruled by ‘wise elders’ ‘gods’ or Masters of Technology? (thank you, Jason) THAT’S comin’ around again. Tesla’s son talked about a time when his father’s WIRELESS and FREE Electricity will be used on Earth. I want to see that…again. Smartest people on Earth were ‘Utopianists’ – past and future are the same – and also 1-worlders – they knew of the forces which artificially divide us; like War and Scarcity and HUNGER which they Want in society under Capitalism. I see a world where we don’t have to pay for our food or healthcare and it all works because it’s allowed to work. The Yuppies don’t know who the NME really is.
Jason, write to me under his email address: [email protected]
I have a gift for you. A whole novel of a great god coming down and wiping out the Galaxy’s Monetary Standard! Even the good guys were pissed! Like when Superman threw all the nukes into the sun – the feds didn’t like that.

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Charles Marcello August 5, 2013 at 4:49 pm

Hello again Doug,

First you seem to be confused, this is a blog, that you created I might add, talking about how Ayn Rand is Wrong… not how creating a utopia is possible simply by saying it is. What I’ve been trying to point out is, you’re trying to compare apples and oranges as if they are the same things. If creating a utopia is the ONLY conversation you wanted to have, why didn’t you create that blog? Now regarding everyone being yuppies. The truth about me is, I was born with a boot in my ass, and because of my actions as a young teenager I moved that boot from my ass to my neck. While my mother worked her ass off to take care of 4 children as a waitress, bartender, and later in life as a secretary. My mom was almost never home until late at night because she normally had to work two jobs just so she could not pay some of her bills. One year, the only reason her children had Christmas gifts is because our neighbors left them at our door… so be careful when you go around talking about things you clearly no nothing about. My wife and I have worked our entire lives for everything we have, and I will fight any worthless son of a bitch who thinks they have a right to take what is mine. Not to mention my wife and I give our money away to help everyone who needs it within our sphere even if they are complete strangers. Would you like some examples? To get back on point, all I and the majority of others have been asking you to do is defend your position against Ayn Rand, yet all you want to do is talk about is your pet crusade. How you are completely incapable of doing both truly does boggle my mind. Let alone all you talk about is how its possible, not how you would go about making your little utopia a reality. While your outbursts have been shocking and very revealing into who you are as a person.

–Charles Marcello

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steve philbrook August 4, 2013 at 10:49 am

The only way You’re scheme would work, by any name is if the majority works as best they can, at their calling. Then gives it all away. I.E. Mother Theresa. If this were the case, everyone would be “rich ” . We are far from that. The average person, making the tiniest decision, considers how it affects themselves first,, others second. Even borrowing a pencil. Will they ask to borrow My pen? A reversal of this wound bring You’re sought after state. Don’t hold Your breath.

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Charles Marcello August 4, 2013 at 9:29 pm

Hello Steven Philbrook,

I don’t think this concept could work if only the majority works as best they can… that is what is happening all around the world to some degree or another, yet as we see our current state of worldly affairs is failing. The only way it could possibly work is if every single individual soul worked as best they could every single day for as long as they could and than gave it all away. Yet as our history proves, if even one person purposely decided not to do anything but lay around and smoke pot and play video games… and they received the same as everyone else… the whole thing would fall right back into the world humanity has always known. Just sayin!

–Charles Marcello

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steve philbrook August 4, 2013 at 10:15 pm

This is true. I’m a capitalist conservative myself. I’ve worked 12 hrs. A day 6 days a week over 30 yrs. That said, I also realize that as machines get smarter the jobs simply won’t exist. Like travel agents and the entire camera /film developing industry. I know it galls conservatives to pay people to “do nothing ” but, as the author States, the only alternative seems to be let them starve. I’m talking about a radical change in thinking. There will always be people like myself, who like to work all the time. And there will always be plenty who like to smoke dope and watch T.V.. the hurdle to get over, is thinking that because You LIKE to work, You “deserve ” more. And yes, My bank balance is virtually zero, I have given it all away.

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Charles Marcello August 4, 2013 at 11:13 pm

Agreed, the more we discover and invent the more jobs people lose… yet those days of having nothing to do are not here. So even though I also agree we should talk about a new way of life for future generations, I do not agree that people who purposely chose to do nothing, deserve anything. Because if people only received for things they do, everyone would be doing something… idle hands does the devils work and all that. However, your last sentence has peaked my interest. You said you gave it all away, which suggests to me you chose to give it away, is that true? And if that is true, then in order for you to completely agree someone else should have the power to take away all that you’ve earned without your consent for the good of the whole. Sorry but you’re gonna kill me to make that my reality, because as the other old saying goes, from my cold dead fingers. With that being said, you are actually agreeing with and doing your part to create the world Ayn Rand talked about. She said people should chose to give their money away for and towards those organizations that help those who are less fortunate. While at the same time she said, that no government should have the right to take from any person just to help people who refuse, not that there isn’t anything thing to do, but who refus to do anything. While I too have done a lot to help people who have less, I vote against all tax hikes for any reason because government spending is out of control. And Steven as our won history is showing right now, takers aren’t just at the bottom end of the financial spectrum as all these bailouts have proven. And as history proves over and over again, when both ends meet in the middle after they’ve taken all that they wish, societies always, always, cease to exists and must be rebuilt! So though I may agree that people must have the opportunity available for them to be picked up and brushed off, I do not believe anyone other than the physically/mentally disabled and senior citizens abandoned by their families deserve to be carried by a society. Create a world where machine do everything, then I would consider changing my mind, I mean at least that would give me something to do.

–Charles Marcello

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steve philbrook August 5, 2013 at 4:50 pm

Hello Charles : You’re right, it was My choice. That is key. I do not believe in confiscatory taxes nor redistribution plans. In fact, I think the government getting into the charity business is one of the main reasons for today’s problems. As You pointed out, there are help wanted signs everywhere. Those are minimum wage jobs. Most people “on assistance ” make far more. You can scarcely blame them for not taking a pay cut to get up and go to work. It’s not much of a stretch to say we’re the idiots for doing it! You’ve got Me, I don’t have an answer. Again, as You said, all indicators for collapse are in place. The longer it’s put off, the more painful it’ll be. Better plant a garden.!

Tray Caladan August 2, 2013 at 2:46 pm

I am speaking of a world of Abundance that is possible with the innovations of Nikola Tesla, Hendershot, Moray and forward-thinking people like 1-worlders such as Buckminister Fuller, Otis Carr and Ralph Ring. Great, smart men…who knew Technology could provide EVERYTHING, MORE ENERGY than we could possibly use. These innovations have been suppressed by who you admire – free energy devices; the Water-Engine, Tesla Technology – 100 years ago Tesla designed disk-shaped vehicles that should be parked in everyone’s round garage today…but that isn’t the case, is it? You wonder why I’m pissed? You’re talking of a world of FORCED Scarcity where men make FORCED Wars and the Bomb instead of using that energy for construction; creativity and love of fellow human on this planet. You’re talking of a world of constant war – needless wars…when you should be thinking of the Utopias of the ancient past and the far future Utopia of Things To Come. But, as long as you pay homage to this FASCIST AYN RAND WHO WAS ANTI-DEMOCRACY and other Right-wingers and only for the Industrialists; the Rich who have ruined this world…then there is no hope for us at all. Not 1 of you have shared my positive vision…not 1 of you is a forward-thinking Futurist. Chucky won’t entertain for a second that he could be wrong. What’s that say? (Sorry you do not see my crystal clear logic. What other conclusions can I draw about you, the blind?). Would you give the same crap to Bucky Fuller? Not one of you gets it! When you have all the energy needed and can truly make a REPLICATOR seen on Star Trek…everything changes – but, NO…you’ll make the Bomb! And love those who make the Bomb instead. Every genius will tell you the reality of S.T.’s transporter AND replicator. Matter from Energy! The reverse of the Bomb…is true…and saucer travel and all the energy we need to GIVE TECH AWAY; FEED THE POOR – I’m talking a very high standard of living – but, each time…the Rich…you all poor/ignorant people support…comes in and eliminates the quantum leap innovation – so they continue to enslave us to gasoline and cars. This is who I hear from; kids who don’t know the technology that has been stripped from them. No one has the balls to say the Emperor wears no clothes – you all think the same – like programmed lemmings. And we’ll never have the innovations Tesla brought forth 100 years ago! Still not ready…how sad. Don’t wonder why you’ve driven me mad…I see the other alternative, which you do not see & the only reason for my raging confidence. HOPE in people who have only turned their back on me and discredit me; how very sad and ironic.

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Charles Marcello August 2, 2013 at 7:51 pm

What you can draw about me is I feel your arguments are idiotic! Your so called logic isn’t clear either and the reason your logic isn’t clear is because you don’t know how to defend it without being totally rude and a complete reject. You bitch about forced this and forced that, but then you go around demanding forced change, that is freaken idiotic! Defend your points man by logically answering the questions brought up by three different people. You can’t just write a blog that only mentions those aspects of Ayn Rands works that you disagree with, while completely ignoring all those things she got right!!! Well I guess you could continue to do so, yet all that proves is your a demigod dictator inside your own mind, that everyone living in the real world should shun!

BTW you do live in a democracy, how so, because in a democracy the majority rules… and you Sir are in the minority and that means in a democracy you get to shut the hell up! In order to have your place at the leaders table in a Democracy means you must win over the hearts and minds of a majority… or bring in an Army and kill all those who oppose you. (I mean damn dude read some books on Roman history to know how wrong you are and how Ayn Rand saw her future, our reality… oh and why I said, or bring in an Army.) The good for me is, and the bad news for you is… in the United States, anyone who comes at the American people with your type of attitude they are told to sit down and shut up by the majority. With the follow up question, just who the hell do you think you are??? Why, because no American wants to be told how they must believe, feel or how they should go about searching for their pursuit of happiness. BTW, if you actually read the Great Minds that created the United States… you know the founding fathers… you would know they actually tried to create a Republic which is completely anti-Democracy. To understand how you’ve been dicked, I mean tricked, into believing a Democracy and a Republic are the same things, you might want to read The Federalist Papers, or stuff written by Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson and others who spoke eloquently regarding there differences.

For the third time now… no one is arguing that what you are saying isn’t something worth dreaming about and working towards, yet all of your arguments against Ayn Rand are anti reality. Which means nothing you’ve said is worth taking seriously, especially and because you refuse to address all the logical problems/questions regarding your assessments towards Ayn Rand. And now for the second time, every bitch you have has been a RED HERRING, you are not addressing any of fallacies found in your opening blog… all you are doing is attacking people, and when you take a break from that, you bring in stuff that does not defend your attacks against Ayn Rand. No one cares about those other people or inventions the world has never known, I know I don’t give a damn. I live in the world that is, not one that could’ah, should’ah, would’ah if only boohoo… I wanna know how you defend what Ayn Rand said would happen didn’t happen in your mind, even though it happened exactly as she prophesied it would. How the hell do you defend your position man? By talking about a world that does not exist, really, that’s your argument for saying Ayn Rand is wrong… Wow, just wow!

You can bitch, moan, groan and even call me Chucky, yet that still doesn’t make your comments any less idiotic. I honest to god don’t understand what is going on with you… no one was attacking you personally we were each asking you to defend your position, by stating how your arguments are not historically accurate. You can call my Chucky, Chuck Wagon or even Charlie, and boohoo about things that weren’t if that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy… but dude, you created this damn blog so defend it instead of attacking everyone.

–Charles Marcello

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Charles Marcello August 2, 2013 at 1:27 pm

After reading the last few responses by Doug Yurchey, I find myself in conflict. First because of his recent horrific attitude towards the comments within this blog. And second because I’ve never seen him be so hateful before. Every person who has commented within this blog is sticking to reality, our world is ran off of people receiving payments for hard work and for products made. Our world accepts that parents who made a crap load of money during their lives are allowed to leave that money to their descendants, some a lot more than others. And there are people at both ends of the spectrum who somehow believes their status allows them the right, the right, to take from others… while our history is clear… when these two extremes meet in the middle they always destroy their civilization. That is our reality, our cycle has not known another. That does not mean we can’t dream about, or work towards creating another reality to run our world on… yet that is not, not, the way our world is ran today. Without question our reality today has been our world’s reality for the last 6 thousand years, and during all of our lives… so when someone honestly reads what Ayn Rand wrote over sixty years ago no one can honestly argue she wasn’t right. Which has me wondering, is that why Doug is being so hateful? I mean Doug has to know saying he watched one video by one person doesn’t dismiss anything, nor does anything he argues against dismiss our reality. Let alone, to date Doug hasn’t even attempted to address any of things people have mentioned that disputes the claims made inside this/his blog. His attitude of, damn it you’re all wrong and he’s right, and then to topped it all off with, his… because we aint smart enough to just accept his greatness he’s leaving world-mysteries.com. There is a part of me that doesn’t give a damn if I read another thing written by Doug, and then there is another part of me that does enjoy his writings, even if I agree with very little of it. I enjoy having conversations regarding all kinds of topics and at times even getting into arguments with people. Before this blog I felt the same was true for Doug… after the comments inside this blog I find myself wondering. To be blunt that either Doug has come off his meds, or something else entirely is going on. These outbursts are so anti Doug’s normal modus operandi I can’t help but be concerned. Doug I might not agree with many of your thoughts or ideas, but on a personal level I am concerned… whether you ever read this or not, regardless of the why behind your current comments, whatever the reason is, I hope once you’re back to the person many of us have come to know, you find yourself well. And yes you’re still wrong about Ayn Rand and her thoughts!

–Charles Marcello

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Doug Yurchey August 1, 2013 at 1:43 pm

DOUG YURCHEY SAYS ‘GOOD-BYE’ TO WORLD-MYSTERIES.COM!

Why should I be on the Internet? Look at my last two articles – forgetting my important ‘Inspiration’ one that everyone ignored. I get a plain and simple lightning bolt showing the contradiction in the Illuminati…and a ‘spooky’ guy blasts me. I get a plain and simple lightning bolt showing the contradiction in the twisted (fascist) Ayn Rand…and what brilliant comments appear on the forum? I receive rightwing blindness (and support for fascism) so blatant my word ‘puke’ was right on the money! Supporting Rand is not supporting Democracy.

There’s just a point when the bad outweighs the good and that happened a very long time ago. ‘Doug Yurchey’ is dead. I don’t even want to be called that anymore. You see, I was going to write an article how the upcoming film ‘Elysium’ is basically true TODAY…and we’re all on an Earth THAT IS HELL on purpose. Only I was going to put the high-tech Paradise INSIDE the Earth and not orbiting the planet. Why write the story if they’ve already made the movie? Why mention real people who the feds murdered like Phil Schneider and Bill Cooper for lecturing about secret underground cities using suppressed technology that we need on the surface? Why; when it’s only going to be contradicted by BLIND FOOLS?

Don’t write to me at ‘dugx…’ because ghosts don’t answer. So…from the Bizarro World: HELLO FOREVER!

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Doug Yurchey August 1, 2013 at 1:22 pm

and the fascism that SHE and YOU support.

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glenn cox August 1, 2013 at 11:27 am

You think Ann Rand is wrong? I think you should go out into the world and see what is happening. I am 64 years old and can see what is going on. If you think Al-quida wants to go back to the 1200′s than you should look at the powers behind the scenes who want to go back to feudal times. Recently I took some college students and layed out history going back to year one. I showed them how to “follow the money trail” to look at what really was going on how to decern the real truths behind the phrase “it’s all about power and control”.

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jason August 4, 2013 at 5:52 pm

Money allows the crazies to rule the world, which is why craziness dominates society.

The truth is, we don’t need a monetary (nor a bartering) system…nor even a governing body. With global cooperation and a council of “wise elders” (who don’t rule/govern/make laws, but only teach & give advice), we can together achieve the most technologically advanced garden paradise on earth. A society where machines perform all the hard/laborious/tedious/dangerous labor…where we advance enough to mine/extract necessary materials & establish industries on off-planet locations (eg, lifeless planets, moons, and asteroids), while allowing earth to remain a pristine garden…where all jobs (except essential jobs, as well as creative pursuits) are eliminated because of the absence of money & government (eg, banking, business, retail, shops/stores, trade, advertising, insurance, taxation, money-printing, stock/forex markets, politics, office work, etc.)…where we no longer work for money, but for each another (which basically means that EACH individual would have virtually millions of others working for them)…and where our advancement increases exponentially as open interaction & exchange between humans and alien groups increase.

Just don’t fool yourself into believing this can be possible with a monetary system, or with the mindset/attitudes of today’s majority. If you’re still looking for alternative means of how we should live by inventing fancier ways of managing money/economics, business, banking, trade, etc…you’ve already lost. If you’re inventing new laws & new ideas of how governments should rule its people…you’ve already lost.

But if you’re one who sees the value of the sovereign & independent individual, and the value of global cooperation (but not at the expense of the individual)…and you realize that human history is replete with conflict/wars, NOT because humans are inherently war-like/violent, but because the MANY persist in a belief that humans cannot peacefully coexist without the dictates of the FEW…then you’re on the right track.

Doug is absolutely correct. Utopia is a REALITY, not a fantasy. There is NO debating it. It’s a no-brainer for those who can still reason. It is simply a matter of choosing or rejecting it.

If even only a single human is capable of understanding the simplicity, practicality, and logic of a society without money & without a governing body, then ALL of humankind is capable of the same.

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Charles Marcello August 4, 2013 at 8:25 pm

Hello jason,

First, thank you for not being hostile and hatefully disrespectful. Regarding your comments, if I may… I don’t see how your comments prove Ayn Rand was wrong… yet to put that aside, how do you find an agreed to direction in a world where everyone is considered the same? If I understood what you said correctly, you would allow a small minority of people to determine the entire direction for the whole earth… a group of wise elders who has no power, yes? Ok, lets say the majority of people agree and that’s the direction the world is planning to go in. What happens when a large minority of people completely disagree with them, and they disagree with them to such an extent they are willing to kill to prevent it from happening… what happens then, do we allow those wise elders to die seeing how they caused the problem in the first place… or does the world bend towards those who threaten violence? And if the world does not bend, and If the wise elders are killed how do you get others to agree to become a wise elder if there is no above the average personal incentive to do so? History proves we are all equal only until a group determines they have the right to rebel, steal, take or force their will onto others. My point is, how do you stop that from happening? Without being able to answer that simple question there is no way you or Doug are right… the reason you guys are not right is, there is no historical bases for your concepts to be real, accept in those tribal communities where value only exists within the family unit and no other.

Granted if all the labor intensive work is done by machines, and not a single person on earth has to worry about creating or buying food, lodging or clothing… it’s simply given to all… the question become how do you reward those who work hard for the greater good and those who want to lay around and smoke pot and play games all day long? Where is the incentive for humanity to continue growing? What you two are talking about has been tried to varying degrees several times in several countries, and each time it has failed or is failing horrifically. Now there are those who believe its because the political and bureaucratic leaders at the top are living a “rich lifestyle” and that is what is ruining all of those communist countries. And then there are those like me, who knows all political and bureaucratic leaders are nothing more than takers, they stopped producing anything but hot air (zero value) a long time ago. What I and many others believe equaled(s) the real down fall of those societies is, some people worked hard and some didn’t work hard at all, and regardless of each individual effort each received the same wage. And after awhile everyone stopped working hard because its impossible to justify working your ass off for the whole, when the whole of your own local populace doesn’t give a damn about those they are in personal contact with. Those are the facts of humanity and our wants, needs and desires… some have more drive then others regardless of which side of the argument you’re on as to why communism is a complete failure. The things you and Doug, (aka, Tray Caladan) are talking about have been tried, finding a solution that will actually hold it together has not. Even though I am absolutely anti Communism/Socialism because of how it is proven to destroy the human spirit… I do agree it reads well on paper. Yet I cannot find a historical basis that has been tried in large or small populations (countries, communes, business models etc) that allows your concepts to be shown as successful. The only place where your ideas are shown to be successful are inside small tribal communities who places value on nothing other than their own family unit. Yet none of those communities, not a single one of them, invented anything other than a personal relationship with their surroundings and the spiritual world. A bomb cannot be put back together after it has exploded, our technological advancements has been that explosion. I’m not arguing that there is no value in both of your comments. Even though both of your comments don’t address how Ayn Rand is wrong when both of you are talking about a world that does not exist… I guess instead of trying to say a world like you’ve describe could never exist, the question I have is, how could you two succeed where over a hundred years and billions of others have failed? As I look across the world and all the pages of history I’ve read, there is only one answer that I can find… before any of the things you’ve mentioned could even be considered, there must be a foundation created the entire world would agree with and never rebel against. The question becomes how would you go about creating that solid foundation that encompasses all peoples regardless of race, color or creed that would make us a single family unit? People have been saying for thousands of years we are all one race, the human race, yet wars have never ceased. How would you fix that?

Just saying something can happen doesn’t mean it ever will, nor does believing your right just because it reads well on paper makes anyone right. I want to know, besides answering the question how Ayn Rand was wrong, seeing how she got everything right… how do we go about making the kind of world you both are describing? If we started today, what would we need to do? Be prepared, as you attempt to answer that question I will mention as many roadblocks as I can think of.

–Charles Marcello

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jason August 7, 2013 at 1:27 pm

Hi Charles. Allow me to address your comments.

[I don’t see how your comments prove Ayn Rand was wrong]

My comments were not in reference to Rand or her ideas, or to any ideology or “-ism”…only simple logic.

[how do you find an agreed to direction in a world where everyone is considered the same?]

That direction is the same in ALL societies…survival. But do you wish to increase the struggle to survive, or lessen it as much as possible? Through cooperation, we can reduce it all but completely.

[If I understood what you said correctly, you would allow a small minority of people to determine the entire direction for the whole earth… a group of wise elders who has no power, yes?]

They have no hard powers, right…which means they do not determine the direction of the planet & its people. That direction/path remains, has always remained, and always will remain (even today), in the hands of the people.

[Ok, lets say the majority of people agree and that’s the direction the world is planning to go in. What happens when a large minority of people completely disagree with them, and they disagree with them to such an extent they are willing to kill to prevent it from happening… what happens then]

The majority can simply refuse to support or work with the minority (just as workers go on strike, causing the company to shut down). The minority will then be left in isolation and left to survive on their own without the support of the majority, causing the former to crumble. If violence is enacted on the majority, who do you think will win?

[do we allow those wise elders to die seeing how they caused the problem in the first place]

The wise elders (just as today’s elite) have no hard powers. The people have the FINAL say in all that happens. Placing the blame on the wise elders (or even today’s elite) removes all responsibility from the people, and thereby separates them from their own power. Once people take direct responsibility for their own actions, the elite will no longer matter. The wise elders will naturally impose upon the people this fact…and that their function is only in mediation, advice, teaching, and council. It is no different than a child seeking the guidance of a parent or elder, or a tribesman seeking the wise council of its tribal shaman/elders.

[or does the world bend towards those who threaten violence?]

Today, you can take over any nation by simply overthrowing its leadership. Why? Because the people have not realized their own power, and continue to willingly hand it over to a leadership. The people then become lost & without direction if their leadership is toppled. They then immediately seek to replace that leadership with another…making them subject to the whims of a new dictator, and further corruption. It’s like a person who keeps marrying & divorcing, hoping to find that “right partner” who will love & fulfill their every dream…all the while it’s them who has not learned to love themselves & see their own beauty & power.

[And if the world does not bend, and If the wise elders are killed how do you get others to agree to become a wise elder if there is no above the average personal incentive to do so?]

The power rests in the hands of the people, and in an advanced society this is perfectly clear. There will always be wise people, and people to look up to, whether an elder or not makes no difference. The decision to serve on the council is strictly voluntary, and by request of growing numbers of people. The incentive to serve would be the same as that of those who love to teach…to help in the development & improvement of people’s lives, thereby enriching & improving society, and the planet itself.

[History proves we are all equal only until a group determines they have the right to rebel, steal, take or force their will onto others.]

Why steal when everything is already free? What are you going to steal? Rebel? Who will listen to you? Who will follow you? What can you offer them that they don’t already have or cannot acquire on their own? How will you convince them that “life can be better”? Is there even anyone to overthrow? Except by force with great numbers, how do you obtain control of the entire population? Why would they ever stop resisting and bow down to you when they realize you are only a few/minority (at best)?

[My point is, how do you stop that from happening? Without being able to answer that simple question there is no way you or Doug are right]

No need to “stop” it from happening because it can never get off the ground in the first place. Today, insanity rules the globe, as we see insane people in top positions of government/politics, the media, business, science, medicine, justice system, etc. In an advanced society, insane people (what few there may be) will not only be unable to impose their will/influence on others, but will also be helped by the community by all humane means available. The only way for an advanced society to be weakened or toppled is by an outside force/invader (ie, an alien invasion/influence or natural cataclysm…and I will admit, an alien influence/presence may be at play among top leaders as we speak).

[the reason you guys are not right is, there is no historical bases for your concepts to be real, accept in those tribal communities where value only exists within the family unit and no other.]

First, there need not be any historical basis for it. It’s logical, reasonable, sensible, feasible, practical, and doable. Like I said, it’s just a matter of accepting or rejecting it. The logic is sound & not debatable. Second, I can’t comment on the most scientifically & metaphysically advanced ancient & prehistoric cultures that may have existed without the use of a monetary system and/or a governing body. Nor can you positively make the claim that there were no such civilizations. We know too little because we have, for millenia, handed our power over to an elite few…the result of which has culminated in an extremely dumbed down, feeble-minded, and ignorant race of people. However, we do have unconventional means & sources of information of our unknown past…such as psychics/seers (eg, Edgar Cayce), past-life regression, past-life memories, mediumship, ET contacts/communication, ancient myths/stories/legends, etc. that support the idea of lost golden ages. Whatever the case may be of our pre-history (ie, 50 to 100′s of thousands & even millions of years ago), it seems safe to say that our culture today is an embarrassment to our past, and to what we are capable of.

[Granted if all the labor intensive work is done by machines, and not a single person on earth has to worry about creating or buying food, lodging or clothing… it’s simply given to all… the question become how do you reward those who work hard for the greater good and those who want to lay around and smoke pot and play games all day long?]

(1) Only work that is essential would exist (ie, science & technology, maintenance, education, medicine/health, agriculture, construction & manufacturing, & materials acquisition). This eliminates a substantial number of jobs we have today, which largely supports the money/business sector, military, and government institutions. The hard/tedious/dangerous/boring work can be performed by machines. The result of all this is a huge surplus of human labor (ie, the labor force is far greater than what is needed)…which leaves much time for creative & recreational pursuits. To get an idea of this, imagine a potluck party where each person brings one item of food. The result is a large variety & abundance of food…yet requiring very little effort/work on behalf of each person.
(2) People lay around and smoke pot & live minimally because, to them, it’s better than wasting time & energy working for money, especially under the management, demands, and rules of some company. The idea of toiling away on behalf of the interests of some company/business is not exactly an empowering one, unless you’re someone who judges their self-worth on their job title and/or what company they work for. I’m not condoning laying around & smoking pot all day…but we should not assign this behavior to mere “laziness”. I believe each person is different in the manner in which they cope with the multitude of challenges in modern society, from birth to the present. People do not fair equally well against the struggles of life. Some are particularly more sensitive & vulnerable, and need a different outlet to express their creativity & potential than the “stronger” types. But if given the opportunity, most, if not all, would actively pursue a creative project or job of great interest…particularly if they were living in an advanced society where individuals would be encouraged to explore their full creative potential.

[Where is the incentive for humanity to continue growing?]

If you’re defining “growth” as technological & social advancement, then that’s exactly what you will see in such a society. Remember, most of the people’s time will be spent on creative pursuits that are of great interest & joy to them. How could such a society not “grow”?

[What you two are talking about has been tried to varying degrees several times in several countries, and each time it has failed or is failing horrifically.]

Capitalism & communism are the same. In both, (1) people want others to do all the work for them, (2) a monetary system is used, and (3) all power rests in the hands of a few. The only difference is that with communism, its disastrous effects are revealed early on…while with capitalism, its disastrous effects become evident later.

[The only place where your ideas are shown to be successful are inside small tribal communities who places value on nothing other than their own family unit.]

The size of the group has no bearing on the importance of social/community cooperation. Without complete cooperation, all groups (big & small) will crumble in time, save for invasions/influences by foreign groups.

[Yet none of those communities, not a single one of them, invented anything other than a personal relationship with their surroundings and the spiritual world.]

And what’s wrong with that? Are they not content? Do they not have all they need (nutritious food, shelter, clothing, good health, family, friends, community support, laughter, fun, creativity, recreation, etc?) Are they burdened with chronic stress, chronic illness, money concerns, concerns about air/water/soil/food quality, environmental toxins, government conspiracies/deception, violent crime, drug addictions, and so on? Technology is very useful…but it’s not a necessity for contentment. No matter the size or technological advancement of a group, community cooperation is THE most important thing.

[A bomb cannot be put back together after it has exploded, our technological advancements has been that explosion.]

This isn’t about eliminating technology. It’s about keeping & advancing technology much further than you can imagine…but under the umbrella of global cooperation, and without a monetary or a ruling/governing system. Without complete cooperation, all that great technology will remain in the hands of the few, and used AGAINST you.

[Even though both of your comments don’t address how Ayn Rand is wrong when both of you are talking about a world that does not exist..]

Just to be sure, what exactly are you referring to about Rand’s ideas that you believe invalidates what Tray and I have been proposing?

[I guess instead of trying to say a world like you’ve describe could never exist, the question I have is, how could you two succeed where over a hundred years and billions of others have failed?]

You’re already off to a poor start with that type of attitude…because, rather than ask what can YOU, as an individual, do, you’re asking what can OTHERS do to bring this about FOR you. That removes any sense of self-empowerment, and hands over all responsibility & decision-making to others. This is a global effort. A few simply don’t have the manpower, resources, and expertise to do it all on their own. However, an already existing sovereign nation could conceivably create such a society on an experimental basis…then attract greater numbers and converts by mere example…thus, spreading it across the globe. In the meantime, each individual can do a lot…such as living as simply & as “green” as possible, refusing to fight in foreign wars, refusing to buy/make/design products that endanger the environment or one’s health, refusing to work for companies that make products that cause harm to others or endanger the environment…or that produce useless/unnecessary/junk products, stop being wasteful, refusing vaccines & unnecessary medications, buying only locally grown & pesticide-free produce, teaching children the value of thinking independently & logically, taking responsibility for one’s actions & thinking before doing, and so on.

[As I look across the world and all the pages of history I’ve read, there is only one answer that I can find… before any of the things you’ve mentioned could even be considered, there must be a foundation created the entire world would agree with and never rebel against. The question becomes how would you go about creating that solid foundation that encompasses all peoples regardless of race, color or creed that would make us a single family unit? People have been saying for thousands of years we are all one race, the human race, yet wars have never ceased. How would you fix that?]

This has been well covered in my above comments. But let me repeat…the state of our world can be reversed literally overnight if we stop believing the myth/lie/propaganda that the MANY cannot coexist in harmony unless they seek & accept the leadership of the FEW. The MANY are generally peace-loving, honest, and seek only a healthy, stable & simple life for themselves & their loved ones. It is the FEW who rise to the top because they are the most ambitious, charismatic, avaricious, clever/shrewd, and parasitic group in the population. To the FEW, the MANY appear as easy, vulnerable targets for exploitation (ie, slavery through fear & deception). Yet it is the FEW who are actually fearful & paranoid…for they understand that their power rests on an ongoing lie which could be uncovered at any moment, and spread like wildfire. This is why there’s so much surveillence & monitoring of the masses, increasingly strict laws, gestapo & fear tactics, black/covert/false flag/psyop operations, poisoning & dumbing down of the masses through vaccines/drugs/environmental toxins/junk food/etc., stealing & controlling ALL natural resources, distraction through brain-dead entertainment/news/sports, divisive conflict through religion/politics/class/education/race, distortion/suppression of our true history, ongoing wars, and so on.

[..besides answering the question how Ayn Rand was wrong, seeing how she got everything right..]

Just to be sure, what did she get “right” exactly? Do Rand’s ideas outline how she believes humankind SHOULD live…how humankind MUST live…or how humankind COULD live?

[how do we go about making the kind of world you both are describing? If we started today, what would we need to do?]

Again, see my comments above.

[Be prepared, as you attempt to answer that question I will mention as many roadblocks as I can think of.]

Be my guest. I welcome your most challenging “roadblocks”. For me, the simple application of strict logic answers all questions.

PS: A good quote to keep in mind:

“The important thing is this: to be able at any moment to sacrifice what
we are for what we could become.” — Charles Du Bos

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Charles Marcello August 8, 2013 at 7:16 pm

Hello Jason,

Thank you for your response, it was well done and extremely well stated I enjoyed it immensely. Because I said I would I must bring up issues I found within your response. First and foremost you kept using the phrase, “all people need to do.” The question you didn’t even attempt to answer is how would you get those people to do those things? Because if the answer was as easy as you claim, the world you say we can have, should already exist… and as we all know it doesn’t. Yet who can deny we all know of at least one person who would fit the type of people the world would need to create the world of which you speak. Historically speaking there are two people of worldwide fame that did attempt to move the world in the direction found within your comments, those people were Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. Which brings me to the second problem I found within your comments. If I understood you correctly, you dismiss with a wave of the hand the way things are as not being human nature. Well as Gandhi and Martin Luther proved, individual men can help direct the world towards a certain direction, yet in the end they both died the same way… by an assassins bullet. Why, because there worldview challenged the status quo to such an extent, millions believed they both had to die… yes we can talk about the conspiracies theories that surround each of their deaths, as to who was responsible, yet both of their deaths provided a very power historical lesson. Because they did not know how to engrain their movements into the human fabric, once they were gone the magic that surrounded both of those men disappeared with them. And that’s what I am looking for you to answer. We can both agree that the way the world is, is not the way it always has to remain, yet the answer isn’t just denying those things we cannot define… history proves the only way to find a lasting solution is finding answers that resonates deep within the human spirit. Once Gandhi was gone Britain did not come back, and once Martin Luther King Jr. was gone Jim Crow laws were not reinstituted. So both of those men were able to teach the rest of us some basic truths, yet those truths were not deep enough to bring humanity together. And that is the problem you will face while trying to create the world of which you speak. People aren’t just gonna be a certain way, they have to be taught and retaught simple truths so completely the lies that stood before that truth was revealed can never raise its ugly head again… our history is absolutely clear, to deny that truth is to deny our existence as a whole. Answering the how is the only answer you didn’t even attempt to answer, and that was in fact the only question. To be fair, I have thought about the world you speak and have sought answers to create that world, if I may, you might want to read my blog, “The New Garden of Eden.” Our History is perfectly clear on this score and no amount of polite dismissal towards wishful hope is going to create those inner angles of man. People must be SHOWN a new path before they will even acknowledge the old path they were on was wrong… Our history is absolutely clear a single bullet from one lone nut can bring is all crashing down… or a worst completely stop an entire world from looking for new answers to old problems. There are other aspects within your comment I could address but none of them interest me nearly as much as how you would answer these issues.

To get back on subject within this blog, Regarding Ayn Rand and how could anyone even remotely say she was wrong when she stated in defense of her operari “Atlas Shrugged”… {{{People who risk nothing and make nothing, who take from those who do simply because they’ve given themselves the power to do so, will end up destroying everything.}}} Is that not the world we live in today? Is that not what governments around the world are doing today? The only thing left for us to discover is if she saw the ending correctly… or will we finally wake up and stop these lazy worthless takers from destroying us all. Time will tell.

–Charles Marcello

Doug Yurchey July 31, 2013 at 5:12 pm

I am absolutely correct and you guys are misunderstanding. I just watched an interview of Bucky Fuller from 1974. The old ways, this Devil called Ayn Rand believed in, was a system based on scarcity…not abundance. Fuller, this most brilliant of men, knew it could all work TOGETHER and believed that in 10 or certainly 20 years technology with a push of a button can TAKE CARE OF THE MASSES easily done…to real futurists! Certainly not to the brainwashed Yuppies who read World-Mysteries with NO VISION OF THE FUTURE! None! The poor aren’t the problem – they have been MADE POOR by the Rich you think so much of!!! But not one of you is railing against the fascists who are keeping all of the tech for themselves and giving you the illusion of a ‘modern’ society. Technology can easily make George Jetsons out of you who continue to act and think like Fred Flintstones…we are that adaptable. BUT EVERYTIME Innovation comes along to make EVERYONE every common person the Masters of the Universe…THE REAL ENEMY has swooped in kept the quantum leaps for themselves so humanity CAN’T improve and progress.
Shame on everyone one of you. Go back to giving your tributes to the king – why don’t you also BUY your way to heaven also with their ‘indulgences’? I hear they have a few specials going. Tesla took down his tower 100 years ago because we were not ready for utopia. AND 100 YEARS LATER, GUESS WHAT MR. TESLA…YOU HAVE A LONG WAIT, SIR. THE BLIND LEADING THE BLIND ON THIS PLANET…still. All those FREE ENERGY DEVICES will just have to wait before they see the light of day because – oh no – people will be receiving more; AN ABUNDANCE OF ENERGY; more than they could ever use!!! The Ayn Rands, WHICH YOU ALL SUPPORT – WON’T PERMIT ALL THOSE CHARITY HAND-OUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go back to sleep Tesla – Your dreams won’t arrive for another 1000 YEARS. The Capitalists have much more WARS IN MIND FOR US!

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Nomad Capitalist July 31, 2013 at 10:44 am

I normally enjoy your stuff, but this seems straight out of left field.

“Cruel and heartless?” What is “cruel and heartless” is taking my money to redistribute to people who believe theft is OK as long as they have a reaaaaaaaally good excuse, and if they get a proxy (the government) to do it for them.

Lose your job? How about some savings? Need food stamps? Grow your own food, ask your neighbors, volunteer at a food bank for barter, and stop having more kids to feed.

The idea that it’s “appalling” to say someone was recognized for an ideological viewpoint is a bit appalling in and of itself. People get recognized for opinions all the time. Your concept that no government theft means “no helping” or “no assistance” is pure poppycock. People are generous by nature and like to ease the suffering of others. It is the government that has divided us by class for its own political gain.

When the government stops stealing money from “citizens” (read: people born on a patch of dirt it commandeered), we’ll all have more money to do more good in the world. Even if everyone doesn’t plunk that extra money into a homeless guy’s cup, they WILL spend it investing in companies that create new jobs or find cures for human ailments, or by buying goods that require more people to be put to work.

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jason August 4, 2013 at 4:30 pm

But it’s not really “your” money. Did you acquire the resources, labor, and technology to print and distribute that money? If it belongs to anyone, it would be the laborers who make it…not the parasites who simply exist to consume, and give nothing back…nor the parasites who run/manage the monetary/banking/financial systems.

And did you acquire the necessary resources, do the manual labor, do the research, and design & produce the technology necessary to obtain your food, clothing, and shelter? What would you be without “your” money? How would you survive except by finding some means of re-acquiring money? Are you not just another useless parasite/consumer who has no voice except by virtue of their bank account? And are you creating more parasites by having children, who must also be fed, clothed, and housed?

If we had to make a choice of who should survive in a global cataclysm, who do you think would be the most desirable…those with the most money & skills to run a business…or those who have the skills to grow food, build strong shelters, produce clothing, heal the sick, repair machinery, and design technology?

It’s always easy to stand tall and talk big when one’s bank account is fat and all the comforts & luxuries of modern society can simply be purchased. But remove that money, and one’s true value/importance in society is immediately revealed.

The following excerpt from the 1935 movie script, Mutiny on the Bounty, illustrates well the folly of the so-called “civilized” world. In this scene, First Officer, Roger Byam teaches Chief Hitihiti the concept of money.

Byam: By the way, what’s your word for money?
Hitihiti: Money? What is money?
Byam: All right, l’ll explain. Now, which would you choose? The shilling or the nail?
Hitihiti: (points to nail)
Byam: Oh, no, Hitihiti. With one of these (holds up shilling) you can buy 20 of these (holds up nail).
Hitihiti: Oh? Where?
Byam: Well, in England. You see, in England, you must have money to live with to buy food.
Hitihiti: ln island of England, no fruit on tree? No fish in the sea?
Byam: Oh, yes. Plenty.
Hitihiti: No money, no food?
Byam: That’s right.
Hitihiti: l stay here.

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Charles Marcello August 4, 2013 at 9:05 pm

Hello Jason,

And that Hitihiti person and all his people did not create their own cannons, guns or warships and now his ancestors lives in the world our ancestors created. Those who believe they have the right to take, steal, and force others to bend to their will with either control the world and or destroy it.

Also the argument you made regarding the laborers who made that money completely ignores that they do not have the ability to enforce their will, while those who claim authority over that money does. All objects on this planet only have value each individual person is willing to work, trade, pay and/or do to acquired them. That money thing you mentioned defies reality, so I’m lost as to how you think using it makes you believe you are defining a possible reality?

Regarding your question has to who should survive, only god can answer that question… As to who should have a greater chance at surviving, only those with the most weapons get to make that choice. Now as to who would I search for if I survived a cataclysm, without a doubt it would be those people who have the skills you mentioned… only because as you’ve correctly quietly determined, in a world with limited human resources they would be the most valuable. While bankers, bureaucrats, and lazy takers of all walks of life would still be worthless. Yet the point you seem to be missing is, the mass of the world didn’t change, only our ability to bend it to our collective forceful will has… and that is only reason, using your own logic, why those people you mentioned whose skills would hold greater value over all takers. While the bigger problem you would face is, once you established a working society, how would you reward those who worked their asses to save your little society… and how would you punish those who did nothing but lay around and complain? Would you allow them to enjoy in the fruits of the workers labors? What happens when the majority of the people who worked their asses off demand you allow those lazy people to die, or at the very least that they must leave your community? Do you kill all those hard workers with all of those skills you’ve mentioned to save the lazy takers, or do you put a gun to the head of all of those hard workers demanding they feed the lazy takers or die? In a world that faced a cataclysmic event what would YOU do regarding the lazy takers versus the hard workers… treat them each as equals even if the lazy takers purposefully do absolutely nothing at all? Just wondering!

–Charles Marcello

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jason August 7, 2013 at 1:25 pm

[And that Hitihiti person and all his people did not create their own cannons, guns or warships and now his ancestors lives in the world our ancestors created. Those who believe they have the right to take, steal, and force others to bend to their will with either control the world and or destroy it.]

It is really the FEW who believe & embrace this attitude. The MANY, (typically naive & trusting because they’ve been dumbed down) have been duped/programmed/conditioned into believing this by the FEW. If the MANY told the FEW to f*ck off, the indigenous peoples of the world would not have been destroyed, but assimilated by the newcomers as valuable sources of knowledge & wisdom. In return, the natives could enjoy the benefits of advanced technology. Both parties would win.

[Also the argument you made regarding the laborers who made that money completely ignores that they do not have the ability to enforce their will, while those who claim authority over that money does.]

What would those who claim “authority” do if those who carried out the labor walked off the job? Labor strikes are a perfect example of just how powerful the people really are. No workers = no products = no profit = no company/business = no CEO/President/Owner/Founder. There are successful small businesses, however, in which the workers have equal ownership of the business. They periodically gather to decide on necessary changes, and it gets done…and everyone is content, well-paid, and has a stable job. The only issue remaining is that it’s still a business. So there exists the issue of potential wastefulness of resources, where unnecessary and/or useless products are made for the sole purpose of generating profits (eg, a shop that makes gourmet cupcakes, or decorative trinkets, etc.). The growth of any business often means a greater waste of precious resources. And because it’s a business, there is also the issue of competition with other businesses. This invites other potentially undesirable issues. Gaddafi (former President of Libya who was tortured/murdered) had a simple, but brilliant, business plan for his nation. He allowed anyone to start any kind of business…BUT they could only hire family members/relatives. This kept the money in the extended family, prevented corruption, and kept the business small. This would be a great LAUNCHING PAD for the slow introduction of an eventual money-less society, since it would slowly de-program/de-condition the masses of their capitalist paradigm & focus on money. The existing government would assume responsibility for producing the NOT-for-profit essentials…leaving the small, non-essential, for-profit businesses to families. In this, those who didn’t work in a family business would simply work for the government (essentially becoming less of a governing body, and more of a cooperative by & for “the people”). But this would just be a launching pad TOWARDS a Utopia…not yet a true Utopia, because the people must first be DE-programmed out of their former mindset.

[All objects on this planet only have value each individual person is willing to work, trade, pay and/or do to acquired them. That money thing you mentioned defies reality, so I’m lost as to how you think using it makes you believe you are defining a possible reality?]

To me, the true value of something is based on its usefulness/need/necessity. What would you consider more valuable…a used, but working farm tractor, a 20 ct faceted diamond, or the original Mona Lisa painting? The tractor is far cheaper than the other two, but it can be used to produce enough food to feed large numbers of people. You can’t do that with a diamond or a painting. You’ve heard the phrase, “necessity is the mother of invention”?

[Regarding your question has to who should survive, only god can answer that question]

I didn’t say who “should” survive…but which survivors would be most desirable (valuable). Would you prefer to try to survive on a deserted island with Bill Gates, or with a 5th Grade droppout outdoorsman & expert survivalist?

[As to who should have a greater chance at surviving, only those with the most weapons get to make that choice.]

You can have all the weapons in the world, and kill whoever you want…but you still need food, clothing, shelter, and community support…not to mention, people to build/fix/maintain/operate the weapons you want.

[Yet the point you seem to be missing is, the mass of the world didn’t change, only our ability to bend it to our collective forceful will has]

The numbers don’t matter. Cooperation wins every time. Still, the more people, the greater the possibilities. This does NOT mean that I condone over-population. It’s essential that we cultivate a deep respect & appreciation for nature…because, afterall, it is whence our physical vehicle originates, it sustains us, gives us all that we need & more, enriches us, and gives us so much joy & pleasure in life. And, being at the top of the food chain, we (like other animals at the top) must keep their numbers reasonable (relatively low) to ensure abundance & a healthy balance (at least until we can establish off-planet colonies).

[While the bigger problem you would face is, once you established a working society, how would you reward those who worked their asses to save your little society]

Who would have to work their asses off, or work long hours, or even work in a field/position they hated in a society where machines performed the hard labor, where there is a huge surplus of labor, where everything is free & abundant, and where everyone cooperated? And where are the sweatshops & the office drones?

[how would you punish those who did nothing but lay around and complain? Would you allow them to enjoy in the fruits of the workers labors? What happens when the majority of the people who worked their asses off demand you allow those lazy people to die, or at the very least that they must leave your community? Do you kill all those hard workers with all of those skills you’ve mentioned to save the lazy takers, or do you put a gun to the head of all of those hard workers demanding they feed the lazy takers or die? In a world that faced a cataclysmic event what would YOU do regarding the lazy takers versus the hard workers… treat them each as equals even if the lazy takers purposefully do absolutely nothing at all?]

(1) Why would anyone lay around and do nothing their entire life if they had every opportunity to pursue any job/project/idea/work of great interest to them? And do you really believe children raised in such a society would grow up in broken homes, have no family or community support, have abusive or drug-addicted parents, become runaways, become lazy slackers, become beggars, become addicted to smoking pot/drugs, and have no sense of direction or purpose in life because they have no outlet to express their deepest desires/needs or to explore their full talents & abilities?
(2) Why the need to “punish”? And doesn’t punishing someone convey the message that the individual is not truly free & sovereign? They have every right to be as lazy as they want…even to murder if they want. However, that does NOT mean they are suitable for one’s society or that they must be accepted. There are many potential reasons that can cause abberant behavior…and they need to be fully explored & understood. When it’s understood, it can then be addressed effectively. If such people cannot be helped using every possible (but humane) means available…then, in keeping with the sovereignty of each individual, the group/society has every right to expell them (if they’re dangerous/violent) to live on their own.
(3) Complain about what? There’s nothing to complain about (ie, no stress, short & sporadic work hours, robust health, clean air/water/food, no wars, cooperation, abundance, plenty of time for recreation/fun & for pursuing creative desires, free education/training in anything one desires, free access to THE best traditional & advanced health treatments, free access to all technology, free travel anywhere anytime, etc…etc.). If anyone can still complain after all this, then perhaps living in a large & technologically advanced society is not right for them. Some folks are actually happier living alone or in isolation…which they would be free to do. But if they’re complaining due to a motivation to rule/control people, they will get nowhere.
(4) As far as acquiring non-essential products (ie, products that are not essential for survival), each individual would have to directly participate in the manufacturing of that product somewhere along its production line. Eg…If you wanted some kind of kitchen appliance, you would have to help in the making of it somewhere along its production line according to whatever skills/talents you could provide…such as helping to put it together, helping to design it, painting/processing it, acquisition of necessary materials, training others, maintenance or operation of applicable machinery/robots, etc. In this way, every product you possess is one that you had (to a greater or lesser degree) a hand in making, providing a real sense of fulfillment & achievement. Doing so would also make each individual a very well-rounded, intelligent, very independent person. So in the VERY unlikely even that a person decides to be lazy and do absolutely nothing their entire life other than eat, sleep & play…they can do so, and without undue burden to society. They just won’t have access to non-essential products unless they put some effort & time into making it. Still, if this lazy person is living with parents/family/friends, these products may already be in the home, and accessible to the lazy person…in which case it won’t matter. It’s really up to the lazy person’s parents/family/friends on how to deal with this slacker.

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Charles Marcello July 27, 2013 at 12:29 am

Hello Doug,

That’s how you defend you attacks against Ayn Rand and my response to your blog? Um, and what the hell does Bill O’Reilly (who I’m no fan of btw) and what he’s having to deal with for being honest have to do with anything you just mentioned? You are bringing up things that people supposedly did… according to your logic flying discs were never seen before Telsa, do I need to post a long rant regarding how Tesla could not have been the first? Let alone how the hell is giving lazy people the right to take from others in any way a comparison to what the government or corporations may or may not have done to protect their interests? I know Tesla tore up his contract with Westinghouse, just as I know people have sold their inventions away for short term profits that have never seen the light of day. I also know of a person who gave a completely life altering discovery away for free and continues to refuse to talk about it openly in any meaningful way because of just how evil people are. And because of our technology this persons information can turn anyone into a king damn near overnight. Maybe, just maybe those corporations and government entities you are talking about have hidden those inventions from the world because of how dangerous they are in the hands of unstable people. People by the tens of millions want to complain how horribly our technology is effecting our air and our water… yet you don’t see any danger in using the once source no life on this planet can live without for running our entire world on? I’ve heard of the water engine, and I heard of a car Tesla created that ran on electricity forever. Yet you seem to totally forget when Tesla created most of these things the United States was still a third world country. Tesla’s flying saucer invention (that I don’t believe could be real, maybe a hover craft but ok…) would not have required paved roads… and paved roads and cement sidewalks are one of the three main reasons diseases are not epidemic problems every single year anymore in towns, cities and metropolitan areas. I call that a win for a humanity, even if you want to rail against it. Let alone I don’t want a lone nut flying a ten thousand pound machine at tens of thousands of miles an hour into our world. Again a win for humanity. I would continue but your arguments so far against my comment defending Ayn Rand are red herrings. You are talking about things that could’ah, should’ah, would’ah… while Ayn Rand nailed what did in fact happen because of takers. Maybe if the world stop believing they have the right to take from others, whether they are poor or rich, these boogie-men hiding everything would allow us to have more technology. I agree with many of things Ayn Rand said and I agree with many of her solutions, yet so far I agree with very little of what you’re saying within this blog… because for the most part its anti-reality. Let alone how is attacking me using should’ah would’ah, could’ahs addressing the points I made in my response to your blog?

–Charles Marcello

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Doug Yurchey July 26, 2013 at 11:31 pm

http://www.world-mysteries.com/newgw/otis_carr_dy.htm
Did Chuck actually write we SHOULDN’T throw stones at Bill O’Reilly?…that’s a good one… I’ll answer by telling a true story that happened in 1960 and you can look it up to see my words are truthful; there’s even photos. Otis T. Carr was given the task by NIKOLA TESLA (who was not a super-Capitalist, YET, the GREATEST industrialist of them all because the Super-Genius had the most IMPORTANT patents of all time that OTHERS made fortunes while he tore up Westinghouse’s multi-million $ contract just so the world will have A.C.) to give the world FLYING-DISK travel; saucers…flying saucers…exactly as my article stated! Carr (if successful would have eliminated cars) INCORPORATED in 1960 – a real corporation! Chuck, you should wish this industrialist and his team WELL, right? It’s America; you come up with a grand idea, you should reap the benefits, right? They even offered the U.S. Government the ability to fly to the Moon; in saucers, in the early 60s! Are you going to refute Tesla? YOU?! What do you think your precious Bill O’Reilly/Rush Limbaugh’s Government DID? Do you think the feds LIKED the idea of some brainiac upstart destroying their plans to enslave us to cars and gasoline for the next 100 years? These men, which includes Ralph Ring who went on a test-saucer ride successfully, should be YOUR heroes exactly like the rich moguls you defend in Atlas Shrugged. What happened was your wonderful Gov. came in like gestapos; ransacked the place; confiscated 2-working saucers and whisked them off to Area 51. Much of 51 was dedicated to back-engineering Tesla’s saucer design and not just the alien’s. How do these gestapo tactics of Big Brother fit your philosophy? Didn’t Rand say you can’t come in with guns and force? You are defending the Bad industrialists. I am saying there are good Industrialists that bring super innovations like the WATER-ENGINE; Lester Hendershots ‘fuelless’ Motor or the machine created by Henry Moray…and each time, if it involves a quantum leap like Free-Energy…your right-wingers come in and destroy every good and decent thing IF IT BENEFITS THE MASSES with super tech – thwarting Big Brother’s plan to keep us at a primitive level with today’s PRIMITIVE technology. (check the year…IT’S 1984!!!) Reality or the Truth does not fit YOUR picture of the world; it certainly confirms my view.
Here’s another example…look it up. The sinking of the Titanic was a murder plot to kill Guggenheim, Astor and Strauss (3 of the richest men on Earth) – you can refuse to believe this all you want. These 3 super rich men would and should have been saved. ‘Oh, right this way Mr. Strauss to the lifeboat.’ Instead, they were murdered onboard and WE have to believe they went down with the ship. WHY? Why would they be murdered and the whole Titanic plot be about them? Because they were a rare breed: Good Industrialists opposed to the formation of the Federal Reserve – and with no F.R. the banker’s evil plans for creating WW1 would never have happened. Like I said, if Tesla was successful…we would be on the road to Technological Utopia…a reality TODAY! But, each time, your Good Old Boys destroy everything good and decent. And this is who YOU think should be in control…is that right? That’s not very double-plus Good. ‘They’ are only interested in what benefits the few, the 1% – that is the Evil you are defending. I simply want the truth and I want Technology to be allowed to benefit all. Those who you are defending have kept the masses poor and primitive. Wish everyone could see the ‘road not taken’ – wish you could see what I see and remember…how Paradise once was. We are 100 years behind Utopia. All of us are owed EVERYTHING – that’s how much we have been cheated. My point is valid…one-worlders that know of super-tech like Tesla and Einstein and Fuller were so against War because they knew we could live without it and what amazing things we could accomplish without your chains.

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Charles Marcello July 26, 2013 at 9:34 pm

What exactly did Ayn Rand get wrong? After reading this blog it appears you are against her arguments… and not that what she said would happen is exactly what is happening all over the world. “People who risk nothing and make nothing, who take from those who do simply because they’ve given themselves the power to do so, will end up destroying everything.” How did she get that wrong?

The other part of her arguments was that people, corporations, and government entities must be held accountable for all of their actions, and when they are not they will steal from everyone else. That is exactly what the world is dealing with regarding all of these quantitative easing bailouts happening all around the world… or stated another way all of these forced austerity measures. You know… the reason why working people are rioting all over Europe and South America. While so far here in America at a minimum five generations are now forced to payback debts 99.99% of us never had anything to do with, nor will we ever benefit from. What exactly did she get wrong about that? Seeing how what she warned against is happening now.
I believe our current history demands Ayn Rand got it right. When you allow anyone the right to take from others things they did not earn, you must make room for people who have more costly needs, “either real or imagined” to take whatever they want right back. Prior to 2008 America was only 6 trillionish dollars in debt, now we are well over 16 trillion officially and closer to 30 trillion unofficially and no one knows how or when this hemorrhaging is going to end.

If we as a society actually listened to everything Ayn Rand had to say instead focusing on all of those things people chose to disagreed with, the whole world would know Ayn Rand said several times people who actually need help should receive help… yet it should not be forced onto the populace because when you do so, as history proves over and over again, people will become dependent and then generations will become lazy in their growing attitude and appetite towards a you owe me mentality. What Ayn Rand was arguing for was collective responsibility across the board for everyone… and if you demand people work themselves out of a hole they will be far more inclined to do so… but only if society doesn’t immediately pull them out of that hole, fill that hole up, and then blame others for putting them in that hole. At this very moment Bill O’reilly of FoxNews is in trouble for saying the exact same thing when it comes to the poorer American African communities across America. He is arguing how damning it is for entire generations to be holding their hands out and blaming whitey for everything… and how that is being promoted to the thousandth power more than holding your head up and being responsible for yourself and your communities actions. By the tone of this blog it appears the author would also throw stones at Bill O’reilly when all he is saying is what is being preached all over the world in millions of other communities where people are NOT raised to believe they are owed something.

Yes a society should be judge by how they treat their less fortunate… the mentally and physically disabled and the elderly that have been abandoned by their families must be cared for by a soceity… and yes a society should have programs available that can help people/families who have fallen on hard times, to help those folks pick themselves up and get back on their feet, yet society is not responsible for carry them for the rest of their or their children’s lives as we see happening all over the world. Carry for the old and disabled and helping your fellow citizens to stand back up on their feet are the only things a societies greatness should be judged by. Yet as Ayn Rand said would happen and as history proves always happens… when politicians and do-gooders find more power in forcing others to carry the mistakes or carry the putrid ingrained laziness of entire generations on the backs of the working class, destruction and hatred is all they leave in their wake. When there is no incentive except to become fatter and have more kids to receive more money you never earned… resentment and hatred is fostered on all sides and then without question at some point in that nations future the lazy worthless takers will always collapse that society. BTW those lazy worthless takers are not just poor people who refuse to even try to better their lives… as we’ve seen those lazy worthless takers are also found inside financial institutions all across the world. Just as Ayn Rand said they would.

I guess after all of that, what is the authors answer for improving society while continuing our march towards greater achievements? Obviously lazy people didn’t invent the Internet, or cars, or medicine. People who took chances, who risked everything including their lives achieved all of these things. The only other thing more powerful at achieving remarkable advancements in human comfort and our ability to do more with less is WAR. What do you think we should do to fix all the financial problems that are squeezing our world from both ends? If we only use history as our guide horrific suffering is coming. Bitching about what Ayn Rand said sixty years ago, or even agreeing with what she said is not going to stop our own future from smacking this world in the face. Now that we know why you disagree with her, and knowing how the world ignored her warnings didn’t stop her warnings from becoming true… what the hell do we do now? What pearls of wisdom do you have to fix the problems the world faces? Do you become one of Ayn Rands characters and take all that you want from anyone you want in order to try to stop the pain and suffering from becoming greater still? If you believe that’s the answer, you should probably read the ending of her book again… You see in her book the people who are willing to work hard towards finding solutions and new answers for the worlds problems, when then all went away the rest of the world went to hell in a hand basket and suffered horrifically. While the lives of those who walked away from the takers… who know those worked for everything they had, their lives and their happiness improved GREATLY once they were surrounded by other hard workers and zero takers! I might be crazy, but seeing how ignoring her warnings didn’t stop her from being correct, maybe, just maybe we should try her solutions and see if she was right on that score as well. Just saying she aint right doesn’t mean that she isn’t when history proves she was absolutely correct… “Atlas Shrugged” nailed the future, our current reality. The only thing left for Ayn Rand to be right about is how the takers will result in our complete destruction. If the world aint finally gonna wake up and listen to what she had to say, I really am interested, just what the hell are we gonna do?

–Charles Marcello

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Doug Yurchey July 26, 2013 at 11:03 am

Remember at the end of H.G. Wells’ ‘Things to Come’ AFTER decades and decades of WORLD WAR…until we were totally sick of it..what could we achieve if all that energy was no longer applied to War & Destruction…but applied to Construction and the helping of humanity? Utopia…is the answer. That’s what I want to say. It’s not science-fiction, but that’s what the cold Authorities will have you believe. You know in your hearts warm compassion is the answer, those of you with a heart.

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